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Michael Pachter Estimates Xbox One Outsold PS4 In September

| October 13, 2014

Michael Pachter Estimates Xbox One Outsold PS4 In September News PlayStation Xbox  Xbox One playstation

September is going to be an important month for sales for both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 being that it saw the release of the very high-profile Destiny. Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter believes that Xbox One got the upper hand in September.

Michael Pachter has gone on record to say that he forecasts Microsoft selling 325,000 Xbox One units and PlayStation trailing behind with 250,000. He attributes this development to the pricing of the Madden 15 bundle for Xbox One and the deal to a great deal that Microsoft was running for those who purchased a new console. “From Sept. 7 through [Sept.] 13, Microsoft offered a free game with the purchase of a new Xbox One at participating retailers,” said Pachter.

The genius behind it is that the deal ran the same week as the launch of Destiny. That in turn made the choice for many gamers pretty simple if they were planning to pick up a new console and one of the most-anticipated titles of the year at the same time. This put the bargain $50 cheaper than the competing PlayStation 4 Destiny Bundle which was $450. “I kind of think that free Destiny [on Xbox One] was better than [paying] for Destiny on PS4,” Pacther told GamesBeat. He also noted the appeal of the Madden bundle. “That’s pretty compelling.” The ‘compelling’ part of the deal is that gamers would essentially be getting two free games with the purchase of an Xbox One.

The official NPD data is set to release Thursday and we will see what the numbers really look like and if Michael Pachter hit the nail on the head with his estimates.

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  • Adam

    As an Xbox fan I wish he’d just shut up -_-“

    • Twiton

      As a PS4 fan I second this.

  • ?????

    I don’t really care about sales, but let’s look at this. True that they had the Madden 15 bundle along with some great exclusives coming out, along with some great multiplats. But PS4 also got more sales with Destiny, though with the deal Xbox had it seems like it also boosted Xbox sales. But with more deals and bundles with Xbox, along with FH2 etc., it is very possible Xbox outsold PS4 this month, and who knows? October looks like a great month for both as well, but Xbox is getting Sunset Overdrive and the Master Chief Collection, so it looks like it is very possible to outsell PS4 this month as well.

    • doplerradar

      Master Chief Collection is November and Sunset Overdrive is at the end of October. I think November will be a better month plus with the call of duty bundle.

      • ?????

        Whoops, my mistake. LOL.

    • $113353191

      No, not this month and not any month in 2014. Pachter is smoking something.

      • ?????

        Wow, your butthurt.

        • STRIKE

          Demfax? Like always.

          • XbotMK1

            Did his comment make you butthurt? lol

          • ?????

            He was upvoted by YAFOW dead accounts. LOL.

        • Patcher lol

          I seriously don’t think so. Besides what are these US only again? Seem low for worldwide entire month sales

        • $113353191

          It’s called reality, sorry if you don’t like it.

          • ?????

            No, its the crack you’ve been taking.

      • bardock5151

        Driveclub isn’t capturing much of an audience compared to other games released this year, with FH2 having been released last month and xbox has multiple bundles with very high profile games coming in them, its not a stretch to say ps4 may not see decent sales till maybe February with their next release.
        Microsoft has the bundles and the marketing deals in place this year to really push for Christmas shoppers. Forza horizon 2, master chief collection, sunset overdrive and 2 of the bigger multiplat franchises are very enticing.

        • XbotMK1

          No, you’re incorrect. It IS a stretch when considering the Xbox One is an inferior product with less exclusives.

          The bundle deals aren’t really a “deal”. if you know Microsoft, then you would know that the bundles are simply made to trojan horse their console into your home. Yet the Xbox One still has an inferior but more expensive subscription service. It requires you to buy Kinect if you want voice commands or motion controls, and you must buy a recharge kit and headset adaptor. The PS4 comes with these features out of the box.

          Microsoft is using the same greedy tactics they used with the Xbox 360. Maybe if all the idiotic Xbox fanboys stopped sniffing Microsoft’s butt and if the gaming media did their job or was honest, maybe online would still be free and Microsoft wouldn’t be locking “free to plays” behind a paywall. REDICULOUS!!!!.

          • Rayban99

            You’re taking it too personal. X1 has recived way more software updates and less network downtime than the ps4 and psn. For 2014 they have more and better exclusives and all x1 exclusives have outscored the ps4 exclusives on metacritic.

            And in General Microsoft is a much much much better run company than Sony and its not even close. Sony’s stock and credit rating have been reduced to junk bond status The ps4 is almost the only successful product they have and i hope it does well, ill buy one when they actually have a can’t miss exclusive like Bloodborne.

            For perspective these sites ran articles about the x1 losing 400 million dollars and they ps4 posting profits, the xbox losses turned out to be untrue even though it probably was a loss so far. But Microsoft is Posting a 22 billion dollar profit for the 2014 fiscal year, while after claiming they would finally make a profit Sony is expecting a 2 billion dollar loss and are cutting more jobs. They have only turned a profit once in the past 7 years

          • ed

            MS has always broken even on Xbox at best. They make all their money from MS Office. It’s a terribly run company that has seen its market share evaporate and little Apple take over during the past decade. And remember, for each X1 sold, they lost an additional $120/per by giving away 2 games. That’s going to effect ARPU very negatively. And unfortunately not change the fact that their underpowered machine will never catch up or catch on.

          • ?????

            ROFL ignorant. Look at Sony, losing billions a year.

          • bardock5151

            Sony releases bundles as well and usually with less value, so your point is moot. Your controller lasts all of about 6 hours and your stuck with that inferior design choice, I have the choice to get good quality rechargable batteries, which can be used in just about everything else around home. I could get a plug and play kit or just replace used batteries, no matter how you look at it I have far more utility and freedom with my controller. The PS4 comes with that cheap headset, where as Xbox has a much clearer and sturdier headset in the box, if I wanted to use an old headset then id get the adapter otherwise all new headset come set up and ready to go. Xbox live has a proven track record as being more reliable and secure than the psn and chat has been and still is clearer and more reliable.
            Also those bundle deals are deals, if the console costs $400 on its own but you could buy the bundle with 3 or 4 games included for the same price then that is simply a deal. F2P games are a blight, nothing more, nothing less. You lot have been so upset lately, maybe its your lack of games or buyers remorse setting in. But hey its all good there are some great Xbox one bundles out now and coming soon.

          • STRIKE

            Oh and the PS4 doesn’t come with an adapter as he said because when I got my PS4 at launch it didn’t have an adapter. (or is the adapter already integrated into the PS4 controller?)

          • ed

            Ha. Sounds great buying loads of batteries. Children’s toys take loads of batteries. I usually get 8 – 10 hours and can just plug in if need be. Or switch to another controller. You want to bring up design? Really? With your massive VCR and power brick? Seriously?

          • bardock5151

            When you lot fail to make an intelligent statement and realise it, you always fall back to “your Xbox is ugly”. Simple the Xbox controller has far more utility and freedom than the ps4 controller, not to mention we don’t have a pointless light on the back or a track pad that does what a thumb stick does only with less precision.

          • pbizkit

            Sony may have a cheap headset but has the ability to use any headset that connects to your computer or cell phone without an adapter. And I got a shitty one ear headset with my xbox one.. 6 hours has been and will be more than enough time unless you plan on playing more than a quarter of a day at a time.. Plus the ability to just charge when needed is nice.. Yet again for this you need another purchase for rechargeable batteries. Not sure why people bring up the controller as a plus for xbox.

            As far as deals and bundles.. You are right, Microsoft is doing an exceptional job at trying to get consoles off of shelves.

            Not trying to say ps4 is better just saying “I get to buy rechargeable batteries” is not a valid benefit.

          • Paul B

            ouch… get some cream for your sore buddy ;)
            Now that one console is releasing good exclusives the public are speaking with their wallets. Playing souless exclusive AAA games with repetetive gameplay takes it toll on people… Especially when you have to wait 11 months for inferior quality
            Sony’s lax quality control department and insistence on force feeding the loyal but misguided masses on a diet of indie could cost them the christmas period
            Lets face facts…. people want good exclusives, not an extra few pixels.

          • SisterSafetyPin

            lol. I guess that’s why the Xbone is being outsold literally everywhere in the world.

          • Paul B

            Yawn snore….

            Microsoft’s weaker sales are a result of a terrible campaign, poor messaging, insistence on kinect and more expensive price point.

            The damage has already been done and XB1 wont recover from it, Sony will always remain ahead with the strong lead it has established. But that doesnt change that Sony’s lax quality control and poor AAA console exclusive support could cost them christmas sales.

          • Paul B

            Xbox is being outsold almost everywhere due to very obvious factors…

            1) price point
            2) policies
            3) poor marketing

            Rarely do companies make the mistakes that Microsoft made, this was one of the worst PR messes For a manufacturer of the last decade.

            Now the AAA exclusives are rolling out more often and at a higher quality than PS4s, the PR furore has died down, kinect is gone and the price is comparable xbox one is doing the numbers it should have all along

          • TheManWithABigToe

            Sony did the same thing last gen and they were able to recover so who knows? These systems are going to be around for quite a while you know?

          • gmon

            Sorry pal…your ps4 is a farce. Not a game worth a damn, inferior features and a laughable online service. Xbox one is superior to ps4 in all the ways that matter to me.

          • The PC Master Race

            “B-B-BUT SONY IS MY FRIEND!”

            >Pays $50 a year for non functioning Online

            Peasants. lol.

        • $113353191

          PS4 will outsell Xbox every month in 2014 globally.

          Doesn’t matter how much twisting, downplaying, lying, and spinning you do.

      • The PC Master Race

        And Sony will still be going out of business and PC gaming will still be the fastest growing sector :^)

    • Guest

      I don’t really care about sales, but bla bla bla

      Let’s face it. You care and especially if the X1 actually outsell the PS4 this month. ha ha ha

      • ?????

        Wow, you’re butthurt. You seem to be the only person taking this so seriously. Sorry, but more sales =/= better console.

        • Guest

          Am I that serious?? I’m not the one who wrote a big paragraph on a subject he doesn’t care about. I’m just laughing at how hypcrite you and all xbots are when they say “I don’t care about sales” yet posts in articles like these one.

          And are you stupid? Who said anything about more sales = better console?

          • ?????

            Seem the PS fanboys care.
            Go cry in a corner about it.

          • Guest

            Cry about what? That the X1 is getting trashed all over the world? ha ha ha
            You xbots are so desperately funny. Keep celebrating someone’s prediction. ha ha ha

          • ?????

            PS fanboys.
            Biggest source of false information and comedy since 2006.

    • Country Boy Lucifer

      How’d this work out for ya? Lol

  • GK15

    Well that was a pretty excellent deal in the beginning of the month. But it’ll still be interesting if this is true. I thought the PS4 would take it on Destiny hype alone.

    But it’s good to see that gamers are starting to take notice. XB1 is an excellent console so it’s good to see it catching on. And a solid exclusive gaming lineup this fall as well.

    • Guest

      Still holding on to hope, eh?

      • STRIKE

        Still waiting for greatness, eh? and are you desperate for “likes” that you need so many fake accounts to make it look like people agree with you stupid comments?

        • SisterSafetyPin

          …Don’t you think that’s a bit ironic coming from you? LoL?

          • STRIKE

            Not really. Why not? Well I really didn’t hide anything, I only did it because it piss that certain person and I never make multiple accounts to like my own comments just to feel accepted and that people do agree with me.

          • ?????

            You didn’t see the people who upvoted either of them.

      • SisterSafetyPin

        Xbone fans, love Journey. Don’t Stop Believing!!!! lol

    • Country Boy Lucifer

      I can see xbox taking the month that halo remastered or whatever it’s called come out, to say that they on is september is (to me) ludicrous when you look at destiny sales and the percentage of destiny sales sold with a ps4.

      Pachters a dumb ass but he’s being extra dumb here!

      As I say I think xbox has a chance to equal or maybe even beat ps4 in the US October and November though

      • GK15

        Yeah it’s hard to see XB1 outselling PS4 in the same month as Destiny. I’d be surprised if this turned out to be true.

        • Country Boy Lucifer

          I don’t know where he gets his ideas from ha ha

          Like I say though I think the run up to xmas you we might see x1 take a month or two

          • GK15

            Halo will prob do it in November

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            yeah i think you may be right, I still don’t understand the need to want to play old games though with so much good stuff coming up

          • GK15

            I’d be much more excited if they were new, but I’m looking forward to it. I haven’t played them in a while and I never finished Spartan Ops in Halo 4 so that’ll be cool. Also the added narration and content for Halo 5 plus the show are a nice little bonus.

            My most anticipated is Dragon Age tho. Console wars be damned, I will be playing Dragon Age next month. That’s all that matters. You getting it?

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Absoloutly man! I’m an RPG fanboy.

            Might not be a day 1 purchase though as lords of the fallen comes out a couple of weeks before dragon age so I’ll be completing that first.

            So many good multiplats in the next 2 months

          • GK15

            Yeah RPG’s are awesome. I would give Lords of the Fallen a go if I hadn’t already committed to so many other games. Maybe I’ll try it out later at some point. Let me know how it is.

            Yes, LOTS of good multiplats this season. I didn’t want to, but I had to cancel my Alien Isolation pre-order. Just not enough time to play it. I’ll definitely get it later tho.

          • ?????

            You getting Elder Scrolls Online?

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Played the beta on PC and wasn’t s huge fan, if it comes out on ps4 and there’s a lull in games I might

    • $113353191

      No Pachter is just delusional.

  • The PC Master Race

    Yawn. Consoles need to Ketchup

    • wastheman

      uh thats the other way around

      • ?????

        Really? Is Microsoft losing billions a year, thesemen?

    • Matthew Bryant

      Meanwhile, over at Sony’s game division, everything is rainbows and unicorns.

      • bardock5151

        Acid. Bad stuff.

    • Twiton

      Didn’t Yahtzee make that image as a joke about console gamers?

  • Tga215

    What do this guy know ps4 won and as a xbox user I’m ok with that I still have fun playing games on my xbox

  • Facts First

    Wouldnt be too surprised that people finally are like “IS THERE ANYTHING TO PLAY ON PS4?” OH BROKENCLUB? No thanks XBOX 1 IT IS.

    • Shannon Novosel

      Keep on supporting the app machine it’s funny you haven’t talked any of the other months.

      • bardock5151

        What’s coming to the ps4 before the order? Oh I know maybe and its a big maybe….. Some weather for driveclub, or more platformers maybe another stability update lol.

        • XbotMK1

          And what is coming for the Xbone? A remastered Halo in 900p, a platformer, desperate “please buy our console” bundles, and another update coppying features from the PS4? Maybe Forza 5 announced for PC?

          LOL

          • bardock5151

            So the remaster fans have asked for is being done and you want to bag it? How about Sony with a barely one year old game being upressed and thrown out for a cash grab. Oh when is dlna coming to ps4 or local playback of almost every format including the ones Sony doesn’t want you to have ;). Microsoft owned IP’s since fable haven’t crossed over from xbox to PC in a long time, so stop grasping for straws. Ryse owned by crytek, dead rising owned by Capcom, see a pattern there. At least Microsoft doesn’t want to box developers like they did with bungie any more.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Don’t wanna box developers wow you’re joking they have no choice as companies stood up too them.

          • bardock5151

            Lessons learned and all that, doesn’t change the fact there is freedom.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Lesson isn’t learned as they are thinking of changing the parity clause for Indies

          • bardock5151

            Yeah, they are thinking of changing it. Kinda proves my point.They plan to improve, they’ve already proven they listen very well to consumer’s, now they are focusing on developers.

          • Shannon Novosel

            It really doesn’t help prove your point because indie companies had to fight long after the big ones to maybe get them to change.

          • gmon

            Sorry pal halo is 1080p 60fps

        • Shannon Novosel

          Ooh and what is coming to the xbox one more apps? Oh wait i know i know another 180.

    • $113353191

      PS4 AAAs Oct-Dec 2014: LittleBigPlanet 3, Samurai Warriors 4, Driveclub, Guilty Gear Xrd SIGN, Alien: Isolation, NBA 2K15, NBA Live 15, Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition, The Evil Within, Lords of the Fallen, Shadow Warrior, Styx: Master of Shadows, Just Dance 2015, Grand Theft Auto V, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Assassin’s Creed: Unity, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Far Cry 4, WWE 2K15, LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham, Rocksmith 2014, Project CARS, Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris, The Crew.

    • Shannon Novosel

      Dam didn’t outsell anything this month either better get a new Phil Spencer plushy that one is filled with too many tears.

  • Jfdelman

    I own an xb1 and micheal pachter is full retard! I doubt that it outsold ps4, and he’s also quoted saying it will be the second time xb1 has outsold ps4 in a month, which I’m almost positive hasn’t happened.

  • Jfdelman

    This is really how good this guy is!

  • wastheman

    SURRRE

  • raine204

    Don’t understand why the industry still listens to this prophetic downtown cardboard sign wearing crazy dude.
    Its like, shit! We need hits. Quick, someone get me a Michael Pachter quote. Anything. Dude’s a fraked up retard.

    • Twiton

      “People who use ad block are killing the busking industry”

    • ?????

      Upvoted by dead accounts.

  • lol

    This is very funny.

  • bardock5151

    So many people enraged and/or extremely concerned by the notion Xbox could have beaten Sony in sales, honestly it means nothing but what does mean something is that Sony’s only exclusive for the PS4 for the next 5 months just released to a middling reception and broken online features. Meanwhile xbox just released FH2 to a stellar reception and are soon to release a game made by one of Sony’s most beloved developers, as an exclusive. Then the month after that we get another gaming feast in the way of the Master Chief Collection with hundreds upon hundreds of hours of gameplay swept through 4 games, a beta for Halo 5 multiplayer and to top it off a tv show included for free. Mix those great exclusives in with all the great multiplats coming out and Xbox is the best place to game.
    1.2.3…

    • Country Boy Lucifer

      LOL!

      Driveclub is not the only exclusive, LBP3 is still to come this year

      driveclub metacritic 72 – forza horizon 2 – 84 both pretty mediocre

      2 unannounced AAA exclusives to be announced December

      2015 – no exclusives for xbox, 2015 – unchartered, bloodbourne, hellblade, The Wild, The Order, everyones gone to rapture etc etc..

      Huge games still not hitting 1080p on x1 – hitting 1080p on ps4

      I could go on but I think i’ve proved my point

      • bardock5151

        Drive club has received mediocre scores, FH2 is getting good scores.
        LBP3 is in the same boat as project spark, very niche.
        2015 has Halo, Quantum Break, Rise of the tomb raider and more unannounced games as well. Seriously Xbox has the better line up.
        You have no point, resolution isn’t as big a deal as you lot try to make it out to be, not to mention on upscaled games for both platforms, Xbox comes up better and on an increasing number of games Xbox is holding better fps and has less texture pop.
        I would go on but you bore me. And you fell for bait ;)

        • Country Boy Lucifer

          Lbp isn’t niche its always been a great seller on PlayStation and has people like Stephen fry and hugh Laurie involved! You have no idea what your talking about.

          Tomb raider isn’t an exclusive so your left with a failed experiment in quantem break and a halo that’s not developed by the people who made it great in the first place lol

          Xbox is not holding better frames per second and less texture pop, complete falacy

          Who has the better line up is opinion, the fact is ps4 has far more AAA exclusives announced, far more Indie exclusives announced and far more exclusive content announced not to mention its the place to play next gen MMOs with many ps4 exclusive MMOs

          My facts vs your opinions

          • Paul B

            Xbox one has the better line up of AAA exclusives released from launch until at least Bloodborne. Those are simple facts and you can bury your head in the sand or cry into your milkshake all you like but you will only be kidding yourself.
            The people have spoken, the reviewers have spoken, the metacritic sites which aggregate reviews and popular opinion have also spoken.
            Xbox One has more numerous, and better exclusives within the first 15 months of this new console cycle.
            Sony focussed too much on indie games and their quality control teams were lax in ensuring games lived up to the hype.
            This is why many people called killzone a repetetive and average game which didnt push any boundries.
            This is why for all its beautiful particle effects the masses called infamous lacking in depth with a Seattle devoid of life and souless repetition of gameplay tasks.
            This is why Driveclub was released 11 months late and was also called a souless run of the mill racer with little to keep you playing after a week. Microsoft released Forza 5 AND Forza Horizon 2 quicker and BOTH outscored Driveclub in reviews.
            Adding insult to injury the weather and social features were talked about constantly before release and were meant to be its saving grace and they dont even work due to the poor infrastructure of Sony’s servers.
            And to top it all off….. The Order looks AMAZING but hardly anyone in the industry who has played it is even interested in it anymore because they all say it is a 5 hour quicktime fest that wishes it was the next Gears.
            Geez i feel sorry for people that only own a PS4. Sony really hoodwinked them!

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            LOL ok so most of the xbox “exclusives” are available on pc so are not exclusives FACT

            BOTH of the 2014 line ups were lacking you’re kidding yourself if you think one is better than the other. 2014 is all about the multiplats and ps4 outperforms the x1 on nearly all of the big multiplats …FACT

            Review scores have been broadly similar across the exclusives and some of the highest scoring games have been indies…FACT

            2015 ps4 has more AAA, more indie, more MMO, More free 2 play and more exclusive content….FACT

            and it’s cheaper and more powerful than the x1

            so who’s been hoodwinked? ha ha ha

          • Paul B

            You can bend it anyway you wish mate, if it isnt on PS4… you cant play it on PS4. So it is console exclusive to XB1.
            AAA Console exclusives XB1 will have by Christmas include – Killer Instinct season 1&2, Ryse, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Dead Rising 3, Project Spark, Ori and the Blind Forest, Halo Masterchief Collection, Zoo Tycoon and various Kinect games.
            Sony cant even get close to that without throwing in a ton of indie games which could have been released on the PS3 and saved everyone more than $400!!! And the few AAA console exclusives which have been released reviewed very very averagely.
            In the first 14-15 months of PS4 life cycle there was very little reason to own it over an Xbox One. Sony are very lucky that Microsoft made such huge mistakes in price point, marketing and policies.
            But now the XB1 is cheaper than PS4, has a better UI, has plenty of awesome features and apps PLUS better, more numerous and more diverse exclusives people are figuring it out for themselves.
            “Sony only” fans are sitting there waiting for app, improvements and console exclusive AAA games to come out…. heck, they are still waiting to change the background of their dashboard and have such luxuries as folders to organise their content on their UI hahaha!!

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            You do realise that ps4 currently has more console exclusive games than xbox 1 even if you don’t include the indies?

            Also the xbox one exclusives have also been scored very averagely?

            It’s worth pointing out that very sson the first 15 months is over so why would anyone buy an x1 based on lackluster first year exclusives?

            theres a reason the x1 has been outsold at a ratio of over 2 to 1

            most of what you said is pure opinion, I like to deal in facts

          • Paul B

            The first 15 months isnt over for another 5 months mate. And until Bloodborne is released in Feb PS4 fans are surviving on the meagre rations of avage reviewing AAA exclusives like killzone and Driveclub that barely scraped into the 70s. These are facts. Games like Knack! Even Infamous was called devoid of life and souless. You dont hear anyone saying that about Titanfall, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3 or Forza Horizon 2.
            See it boils down to this…. People dont want to play pixels, they want to play games. Xbox One fans can play most of the games PS4 can play plus a bunch more exclusive to the XB1 console. The PS4 exclusives arent holding up very well.
            Teenagers are going round to their mates houses and being shown Driveclub, Killzone and Infamous. They play for a bit, appreciate the extra pixels and ultimately take little away from the experience.
            Then they go round to a friends house with an Xbox One, and the experience changes… all of a sudden they are excited to challenge another car in a race, or try and beat a train to the finish line. They are running around shooting things and jumping in large mechs, and they are jumping around open world cities being chased by giant mutants or zombies…. and everything seems fun!
            Now the Xbox One UI is drastically improved, the servers arent being taken down by DDos attacks like Sony’s and most importantly… the price is better… They are opting for the XB1 in much higher numbers.
            So I go back to my previous point… Sony let themselves down on quality controlling their AAA exclusive games and forcing Indies upon their loyal but misguided fans.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            You seem to be forgetting multiplats?

            Ryse and k back got virtually the same scores.

            No exclusive scored in the 90s apart from the last of us remastered lol

            Look bottom line is this year has been mediocre on both consoles for exclusives

            Multiplats are who own 2014 so it doesn’t really matter that exclusives have been mediocre on both systems.

            X1 isn’t catching up to ps4 in sales, not even close so your little theory is clearly wrong

          • gmon

            Stop just stop !! You look like a complete fool. Just go by an xbox one and you wont have to do this nonsense…..you will be a happy man cause you have the superior system. The system with the best games is the best system and that is the xbox one !

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            You’ll notice I’m not saying the best anything because that’s opinion not fact….just saying

            Oh and I’m an Xbox gamer, not bought the one yet but I will its just my opinion that the ps4 offers more right now that I want as I’m a PC gamer also

          • gmon

            My man ! Extremely well said !

          • $113353191

            PS4 will outsell Xbox every month in 2014 globally.

            Doesn’t matter how much twisting, downplaying, lying, and spinning you do.

          • Paul B

            Hahaha you can keep your sales figures and extra pixels…. I cant play those.

            What i can play is Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Project Spark and Sunset Overdrive

            Enjoy driveclub hahaha… I remember you talking that game up as a Forza killer.

            It didnt even review better than Forza 5, let alone Forza Horizon 2… Maaaaaaan Sony dropping that quality control ball at every turn this generation.

            Dont worry greatness awaits haha, you have the Order coming next year… The game that was touted as Sonys answer to Gears before the conference and then referred to as Sonys answer to Ryse AFTER the conference hahaha… Thats some serious slipping!

          • $113353191

            You spread lies.

            I can play DR3, Titanfall, Project Spark, and Ryse on my PC already.

            Driveclub is a good video game. 72 on metacritic is not bad.

            The Order will be a good game.

            You are a sick, malicious, lying, evil sack of fanboy waste that blindly hates anything to do with Sony or Playstation.

            Sony has great 1st party studios that will produce great PS4 exclusive video games. You are sick and evil human waste.

            PS4 has good exclusive games already with more on the way. PS4 is selling on price/performance, 1st party studios, more developer support including indies and Japanese developers, PS+ value, and better PR.

            http://www.listwar.com

          • $113353191

            You are sick and evil human waste.

          • ?????

            Look who’s talking.

        • XbotMK1

          Rise of the Tomb Raider is timed.

          • bardock5151

            So your getting it in 2015? Its an exclusive title for 2015 on Xbox.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            that’s not exclusive though is it?

          • bardock5151

            Lol, its the very definition of exclusive. Its exclusive to xbox through the year of 2015 and on through a year or whatever, it’s exclusive.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            through the year of 2015 ha ha ha it get’s released December 2015, it has one months exclusivity.

            available to only one person or group – definition of exclusives

            it’s not exclusive as it will after a short time be available to everyone

          • bardock5151

            After its been available only to a select group of people. Stop trying, your just failing.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Since when is timed exclusive exclusive? lol

          • bardock5151

            Your lack of comprehension is starting to erode my confidence in the human race, good bye.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            it’s a timed exclusive…..is that or is that not true?

        • STRIKE

          Don’t forget about:

          Fable Legends
          Halo 5: Guardians
          Scalebound
          Crackdown 3
          Quantum Break
          Ori and the Blind Forest
          Inside
          Rise of the Tomb raider

          and many more.

          So what hoppsy80 said “2015 – no exclusives for xbox” is not a fact but just him trying to make himself feel better.

          • bardock5151

            Yeah, just bored of him.
            Obviously these guys haven’t realised what they’re feeling is buyers remorse.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Obviously! LOL

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Actually I said ps4 has more AAA exclusives, More indie Exclusives, More MMO exclusives, More Free 2 play Exclusives and more exclusive content in 2015…

            All facts, please feel free to check

          • STRIKE

            Actually you said Xbox One had no exclusives for 2015…please feel free to check your own stupid comments.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            I revised that in a later comment though, please read the full thread to avoid making a fool of yourself…

          • STRIKE

            LOL! Of course you had to revised it because you were proven wrong and had to damage control. Either way you still said “Xbox had no exclusives for 2015”, so the only one making a fool of himself is you. Now don’t go full damage control and retard again because I wont be cleaning your mess again.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            are you saying that what i’ve said regarding ps4 exclusives isn’t true? i’m not damage controlling you are

          • STRIKE

            LOL! Don’t try to change the subject (damage control at its finest) I am have been talking about your comment regarding the Xbox One from the very beginning…well you did a great job making a fool out of yourself, and you will keep at it. Well am done here.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Not even remotely changing the subject, read the full thread, of course xbox is getting exclusives it’s just not getting many.

            Be interesting to see how many come to PC as well like most other x1 “exclusives”

          • Steven Hiller

            I think he just destroyed you with logic.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Ha ha okkkkk

        • ?????

          Don’t forget Crackdown and Scalebound.

      • gmon

        You are a complete idiot…are you still fighting this idiotic battle…you and demfax ? Son…ps4 is putting out trash games as exclusives. Driveclub got reviews of 4s, 5s and 6s out of 10. FH2 got several 100s and 85-90s across the board. Do you know what 100 means…it means that it is perfection which is exactly what it is ! Look at 2 more beauties that xbox one will have in 2-3 weeks…sunset overdrive and halo. What does ps4 have coming that is any where close to the beauty of Halo at 1080p 60fps ? Your joke of a PSN service has been down for 3 days because of one terrible game release….couldnt even handle a beautiful game if ps4 had one…which it dont ! Ps4 sucks my left nut and i am laughing at every idiot that argues otherwise.

        • Country Boy Lucifer

          so much wrong with what you just said.

          do you know what a metacritic is?

          Driveclub i believe is 75 metacritic

          horizon 2 is 84 matacritic.

          not much in it really, both pretty mediocre

          PSN has not been down for 3 days, driveclub servers have psn is unaffected.

          X1 on the other hand has had it’s online disabled for anyone wanting to play with friends for over 24 hours and has only just been fixed….the longest issue either network has had.

          Both systems have a mediocre line up for 2014 with x1 probably getting the nod for the best line up 2014…slightly

          come 2015 that changes completely

          • gmon

            Metacritic forza horizon 2 – 85
            Metacritic driveclub – 72

            Dont make up numbers…that is a massive difference. You too much of idiot to talk to. I play forza horizon 2 sunset overdrive and halo on an online service that works.

            You play driveclub on servers that dont work and wait for the next PSN outage or maintenance event.

            Have fun

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Lol both mediocre scores if you ask me, not exactly setting the world on fire are they?

            Your online service clearly doesn’t work or it wouldn’t of had the friends list down for 24 hours (the longest issue either network has had this gen)

            Enjoy living the lie looking at x1 through rose coulered glasses!

            The difference between me and you is I think both consoles need to improve, you’re a typical xbot who won’t admit to failings in your console and that’s why ms continues to take advantage of you with no opisition

    • bardock5151

      Oh and for some reason it had me signed in as a guest but that’s me^

    • gmon

      Couldnt agree more. Haters will hate and we shall continue playing the best games while they waste their lives hating. Strange people indeed !

  • XbotMK1

    Well, I guess Pachter is calling VG Chartz extreme liars because the PS4 has been outselling the Xbox One heavily every week in September according to VG Chartz.

    I really don’t trust either. VG Chartz has The Last of Us at 4.5 million sales when Sony allready confirmed that it sold over 7 million. VG Chartz is usually wrong about their game sales.

    But considerring past trends and the circumstances, VG Chartz > Pachter

  • Twiton

    Console wars 3: Pachter strikes back.

  • gmon

    You people are extremely strange. Why sit in here and argue about sales….does it change the amount of fun you get from playing games ? All that i know is that i am happy as a pig in s**t with my xbox one. Forza horizon 2 is the best game that i have played in a very very long time. Top 3 of all time for me. And sunset overdrive and Halo within the next 2-4 weeks. Any idea how sweet Halo is going to be at 1080p 60fps ?!?! Forget the sales…just go buy an xbox one or you will miss out on the best games in the industry. If you are an xbox one hater…you are a fool. Driveclub is an embarassment as is your horrid PSN online service…xbox one has better games and features than ps4. You are in for constant misery with the joke known as PSN.

    • Country Boy Lucifer

      didn’t the friends list go down for 24 hours making it impossible for you to play with friends online?

      longest any network this gen has had an issue isn’t it?

      ha ha ha

      try harder

      • gmon

        As they are getting to release another great monthly october update they worked on friends list indeed…i played with friends just fine that night since they joined through the fatastic forza horizon 2 ingame menus….not a minute lost in friend action. U try harder.

        • Country Boy Lucifer

          sadly your experience did not match most xbox players experience, you couldn’t join parties etc etc

          apparently it happens at least once a month as well, just check out the thread on here

          • Steven Hiller

            It’s funny you were so upset with psn a few days ago you posted “Sony needs to get their act together. Xbox live is clearly superior.” And now you’re posting pns is better? You’re headed into xtreamderp territory.

          • Country Boy Lucifer

            Nothing you just said is accurate.

            I still think psn needs to be better that hasn’t changed however from what I learned yesterday I think live and psn are on par and both need to improve. Neither of them are superior and both have issues

  • ed

    Sure you saved $60 on Destiny, but you had to pay $400 for an X1. Who the F wants one of those? Free is not always better.

    • gmon

      Apparently more people than those wanting ps4 last month. Thats what happens when you have no or trash exclusives, inferior features and an embarassment of an online service. If someone gave me a ps4….i would sell it. Xbox one for me pony freak !

  • gmon

    Apparently more people than those wanting ps4 last month. Thats what happens when you have no or trash exclusives, inferior features and an embarassment of an online service. If someone gave me a ps4….i would sell it. Xbox one for me pony freak.

  • SisterSafetyPin

    I swear Pachter is just guessing, lol

    • Steven Hiller

      Of course he is. He’s right every now and then but no more often than anybody else making and educated guess. I guess he knows how to get attention.

    • $113353191

      Pachter is completely wrong.

  • Jfdelman

    All you need are these two screen grabs.

  • ?????

    Reeks of butthurt PS fanboys getting upvoted by YAFOW’s dead accounts.

    • $113353191

      PS4 will outsell Xbox every month in 2014 globally.

      Doesn’t matter how much twisting, downplaying, lying, feces flinging, and spinning you do.

      • ?????

        I doubt it will outsell Xbox this month, next, and December.

  • ?????
    • ”Say No More”

      OMGoodness that’s so funny! ^-^

    • R.

      So what were the actual sales numbers?

  • bardock5151

    derps back.

  • crizz1066

    Is it any surprise! M$ so desperate to catch up they’re giving away the kitchen sink to get sales. As it can’t sell on it’s merits alone.

    • ?????

      And Sony is desperate to make a profit. Also, more grammar errors…

  • SisterSafetyPin

    I will do a surprised congratulatory slow clap if this turns out to be the case for September

  • dave mcnair
  • ?????

    Look who made another derp account.

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