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Sony Wont Make The Same Mistakes With PS4

Sony faced a couple of big hurdles when competing with Microsoft and Nintendo in this generation. For one, they launched with a price point that many found exorbitant. They also gave their competition a one year head start in the sales department.

Sony Wont Make The Same Mistakes With PS4

Sony Won't Make The Same Mistakes With PS4



Sony faced a couple of big hurdles when competing with Microsoft and Nintendo in this generation.  For one, they launched with a price point that many found exorbitant.  They also gave their competition a one year head start in the sales department.  Apparently though, Sony has learned their lesson from this generation, and they won't be making the same mistake twice.

Since rumors have been running wild about next generation offerings from Sony and Microsoft, Sony has decided to throw another log on that fire and let us know that it would be "undesirable" to launch the PlayStation 4 significantly later than the competition in a recent interview with Eurogamer.  There's still no concrete announcements from either the Sony or Microsoft camps about the timing of next generation consoles.

Analysts believe that the consoles will stretch all the way to 2014, but other rumors suggest that the consoles could be on the way much sooner than that... like next year.  Nintendo is planning on launching the Wii U in 2012 and hopes to invade the "core" demographic.  While both companies have downplayed the launch of the Wii U as a reason to evoke next generation systems from either Sony or Microsoft, you can bet that neither company wants to let Nintendo get out too far ahead.

By on November 26, 2011
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89 COMMENTS
  • avatar
    heavenswarrior121
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    Ps4 for the win! Cant wait most likely ps4 price range will be from $350-$500

    • avatar
      John Kirby

      I would argue that the PS4, Xbox 720, Wii U (or whatever they will be called) will all be for the win.

      Competition will make all three better, and benefit the consumers in quality and price.

  • avatar
    the1
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    We’ve had the emotion engine, we’ve had the cell processor, what the bell stupid name will the try and sell the ps4 with??!! Can’t wait to find out lol

    • avatar
      therapist

      they can improve the Cell, a lot more memory, improve the blue ray, usb 3.0,graphic and ect

    • avatar
      addicted

      Therapist is right….We will see an updated version of the Cell in the PS4.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Completely no point of upgrading the Blu-ray.. Its not needed. I doubt they will upgrade next gen

  • avatar
    Frank
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    I love how they say they don’t want to release it a year later, but not at a cheaper price points. That’s really the only reason why PS3 bombed in the first place. It was too expensive. That and it had no games and it lost exclusives like devil may cry, GTA IV, and others.

    • avatar
      Black_Napalm

      What so Microsoft is just going to give you the next Xbox?????? you can expect the Xbox 720 will start for 350-450 dollars and the price for live is going to rise significantly so i hope you saving up now.

  • avatar
    Jahnny b
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    PS4, one can only imagine what innovative things will come with it. You know what would blow xbox out of the water? If the make an exclusive of a remake of Final Fantasy 7 and sell it at launch!!!!! PS4 wins FLAWLESS VICTORY!

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      It costs million of Dollars to make a popular franchise exclusive. You cant just say… “OOooh Make this game an exclusive”.

      If you want to permanently bankrupt Sony…. tell them to make GTA V an exclusive…. then thats bye bye PS4.

      Even I dont want that. There will be no competition next Gen.

      …….Common sense…….

    • avatar
      Jahnny b

      Lets see, final fantasy 7 is already a playstatsion exclusive. They dont need to pay a dime! Only new FF games are for both consoles. 7 was made in 97. So if they updated the graphics, its still ff7 and a playstation exclusive. Sorry man……

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Remake of FF7 is highly unlikely. Im sorry man…

    • avatar
      Jahnny b

      I didnt say it was likely i just want to see it happon. But regardless, you just got pwned in this little spat. Sorry man, your out of argueing material for this one

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Proclaiming your self to be a winner of an argument???

      Weak bro… weak…

  • avatar
    Thal
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    PS4.Party chat, better menu, better music service better video options….

    Wait I just described XBL. In other words copy xbox.

  • avatar
    counter troll ops
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    better controller plz needs triggers this time

  • avatar
    Br@D
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    Im actually sorta excited for the wii U.

  • avatar
    rollin.
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    WE NEED DEM GRAPHICS MOTHERFUCKER

  • avatar
    lukeward69
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    im just reallt excited to see what is in store for us all. this current generation iv had enough of it now NEXT please

  • avatar
    A113n
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    Again! Exactly in line with what I keep saying.

    I guarantee that PS4 and 720 will be $399 on release and Sony will not allow Micro$oft to win the online market bet default like the 360. Although Sony has done a good job this gen keeping the loyal customers and even winning back some that want to upgrade to something nicer than the 360.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      For Psn to reach the same amount of features as XBL. You guys need to pay online for better service, download speeds, better security.

    • avatar
      Jahnny b

      @ cooldude and xbox would have to upgrade to a blu ray drive so it can have true hd gaming and all its games only b one disk each. Does xbox have built in blu tooth? Honestly i dont kno. Maybe controllers u dont need a cord to play with or have to pay for a charge pack. Possible motion controls built into the controller.oh and the best feature, no RROD

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Made me laugh there. There are so much more games that run on 1080p in the Xox 360 than the Ps3. Most of them only run in 720p in that console. It because PS3 doesnt have enough memory to run it as smoothly as the Xbox 360.

      Blu ray doesnt help HD gaming. It only stores more.

    • avatar
      Jahnny b

      Common known fact bro, u are not watching true hd unless your using a an hd medium, hdmi cables, and an hd tv. U can play hd, but u wont actually be seeing the hd image without all 3. The 360 does not have an hd medium. It lays dvds……. Sory wrong again

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Im confused.. are we talking about movies or games??

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      If your talking about HDMI 1.3 and 1.4… theres where youre wrong.

      Xbox 360 only offers HDMI 1.3… yes, I know..

      PS3 offers HDMI 1.4….

      They both have the same “resolution” same “frame” or same HD options… The only difference is uncompressed sounds. It does not affect HD gaming at ALL.

      It only depends if your game can stream at 720p or 1080p. Which significantly more multiplats in the Xbox 360 can stream at 1080p and Ps3 only at 720p.

    • avatar
      A113n

      I’m not completely sure you are right on that one cool dude.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      I welcome any corrections…. especially from you Allen

  • avatar
    That Guy
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    heres some logic. my 6970 cost $350. that means that unless the ps4 or xbox cost at least 350 they still wont be able to catch up to many modern pc`s.

  • avatar
    Truth
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    As long as it lasts more than 30 min before breaking, it’ll win the console war again.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Win the console war?? Bro, there is NO winner in this generation. I mean that. I seriously think that theyre just a tie.

      Your such a fanboy. Pathetic…

    • avatar
      A113N

      Winner is Nintendo and I’m happy for them.

      Loser is Xbox since it’s always selling the least and PS3 managed to catch up regardless of an entire year head start as the only next gen console and of course Millions of RROD rebuys and a $200 better price tag.

      PS3 can take 2nd this gen. As long as Xbox has it’s rightful place as last place, seeing as it’s the biggest piece of $hit in gaming history with only the laggy, unresponsive Kinect competing with the 360 for the official tital of Biggest PIece of $hit.

      It’s not rude if it’s true.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Im sorry, but kinect is not laggy and “UNRESPONSIVE”. Its got voice command, I play Kinect sports with my son and it doesnt seem to lag.

      Also lets look at the math shall we?

      Kinect sold 2 million in six months

      Move sold 0.3 million in six months

      Xbox 360 sold 57.9 Million

      PS3 sold 55.4 Million

      Xbox 360 Software sales 556.7 Million

      Ps3 Software sales 448.5 Million

      Get your facts straight. Pathetic fanboy.

  • avatar
    Cool dude
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    Ill wait for the consoles to come out then ill judge whos worth my money.

  • avatar
    Zentrix
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    yea the wii won cool dude. stop hatin

  • avatar
    heavenswarrior121
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    I surely hope we dont have to pay for online when the ps4 comes out -_- but i got a feeling we gonna have to start paying for online lol please dont make that move sony

  • avatar
    Lolall3n
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    Wii won this gen war easily 80+ million to 55 mill and under. Hate on the wii spec and what not they sold a lot of console period.

  • avatar
    reality
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    First off, if you subtract 360s year lead numbers it has still sold more, again, buy both that way you miss out on nothing. Secondly, the price of Live has gone up $10 and $10 only, and go figure, there are more services incoming. Original Xbox Live cost was $50/year, now its $60, I don’t see that rising until the half life of the 720 or whatever they’re gonna call it. PSN should become a pay service so it can become more secure, more reliable, and just all around better. Good launch titles would help. Prepare for $500-700 consoles. Triggers on the controllers. Copy Live. If the PS4 does this I can see me playing it more.

    • avatar
      That Guy

      thats a 20% increase in price. how would you like it if you were making 1,000,000 a year but the government took away 200,000. you would be angry.

  • avatar
    rollin
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    no worries, i sure expect no graphical difference in the next console,

    One more person building a pc

  • avatar
    SKIN503
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    I think the headline for this article is BS, So Sony had a security issue and a little spendy out of the gate….whoopie, what about the never ending list of faults and sub on subs and lack of innovation and exclusives from M$? If anything M$ should be paying more attention on not repeating the same mistakes again. Every XBOT out there is in denial about throwing money away on live and a pointless console and just about all defensive remarks like cross game chat “annoying as fuk” and security is absolutely retarded. Makes me wonder if these AOTF writers are micro fans as the articles bashing PS3 half the time are pointless and outweigh the bad sh*t we all “KNOW” about the 360. Long live Sony and Nintendo, Micro….keep your pay to play BS and faulty hardware, stick to Windows.

  • avatar
    anfernee
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    pathetic just pathetic ps3 raped exbox 360 in exclusives nd all around quality watch exbox 720 come with rrod7 lol microsoft sucks forgive my grammer typed this on my psp

  • avatar
    Bacon
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    The funny thing about these nex gen consoles will be that the 720 will have graphics of the ps3 while the ps4 will truly have nex gen graphics

  • avatar
    Bacon
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    I hope ps4 sales destroy 720 so that developers wouldnt be lazy like they did with 360 and ps3 and worked with 360 version and only used graphics that 360 can handle, 360 was holding games back from looking great like first party ps3 games

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Another retarded comment made by Bacon.

      Xbox 360 has pumped Billions of Dollars to the Video Game industry. And so did Wii and Ps3.

      So how did Xbox 360 hold it back again fanboy??

    • avatar
      Jahnny b

      Aparently u dont remeber reading about how games didnt get to be to their full potential becuase most developers want to design for both systems. But M$ wont let them put anything diff between the consoles that could make it better than the 360. Dev expressed how much more they would like to do with the games graphically and content wise but werent allowed to by M$ contracts. So to put it lighhtly, every game for both consoles had to be dumbed down to inferior tech to publish for both consoles. Why do u like every ps3 exclusive game looks better than ANY xbox game. Uncharted, GOW,…… Next gen M$ wont get that head start on the consoles and sony will come up with more innovations that xbox will try to copy. How much u wanna bet the next xbox has built in wifi, blu ray…….. Oh ya the original. 360 didnt, copied sony for that, wait doesnt the new xbox even look like a ps3 a little with that smooth black design….

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Wow, really. Are we copying colours now???

      Get your head around it bro, your talking about COPYING COLOURS….

      Ohh wait your brain is too small… sorry.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Plus, Microsoft Xbox 360 is the only console at the moment to add new features. 40 new cable system? Cloud Storage 512mb? Companion Feature? Wireless B/g/n? Im getting my money’s worth. A whopping $5 a month. So much more than the Ps3. Yeah sure, brag about the “Internet Browser”. I doubt you will replace your computer for that. Its a feature that should be removed. Psn dont even match to the capabilities of Xbox Live.

      Ps3 has removed features lately. Linux feature removed and they have put the hammer down on Game sharing from five consoles to Two. Thanks Sony.. :D

    • avatar
      Jahnny b

      What can xbl do that psn cant, and yes the xbox copied the colours of ps3. They copied its looks and design with the latest release. If the shoe fits wear it. And aparantly everyone commenting on these pages agree with me and think your not so smart…… Look at the ratings, i have more likes in one comment then you do in this single response thread. Everything sony has had since the beggining xbox is just now implementing, even your new dashboard looks very similar to the xmb.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Umm… look at the site… take a LONG HARD LOOK at the site’s name….. Can you see it??? No of course you cant.

      Your just a fanboy like everyone else… With an exception of a few people. Ofcource people would thumb me down if theyre Pro-Ps3 and people that are Pro-Xbox 360 would thumb me up.

      Simple…. in the end, these “fanboys” are just simple gamers like you and I.

      YOU tell me what PSN can do and XBL cant.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Umm can you spot the difference Jhanny?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON4stPcGPxs

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBTM8xJpyT8

      No, ofcource you cant.

    • avatar
      A113n

      It can browse the internet.

      Unless you want to compare your paid service to ours.

      Because we get free games, free map packs, full game trials, free dynamic themes, free avatars, discounted games and discounted map packs.

      None of which you get for paying $300 every 5 years for live.

      And no it’s not $5/month, it’s $60 at once like buying a brand new game on release day. If you want to pay per month it’s $120/year.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Seriously bro??? We get more free crap from Xbox Live than in PSN. Guess what? We get free games, free map packs, full game trials, free dynamic themes, free avatars, discounted games and discounted map packs too you know? We also get all indie and arcade games much much earlier than PSN.

      We also get better connection, a more active fanbase, faster Downloading speeds, More secured network.

      Xbox 360= Entertainment – Sky Go, Last.fm, Zune video, Zune music, Vodafone Casa TV, MSN, ESPN, Foxtel, Hulu PLUS, AT&T U-Verse TV, TELUS Optik TV, Youtube 720p!, Bing, IPTV, UFC, Canal+, Movistar, Skype, Free Crackle, Bravo, Cinema Now, Daily Motion, EPIX, HBO GO, iHeart radio, Manga Entertainment, MSNBC, Syfy, TMZ, The Today Show, Verizon Fios TV, VEVO, Xfinity On Demand, ABC iview, 4oD, BBC iplayer, Twitter, ZUNE.

      We get a SPECIALLY integrated… Facebook, Twitter, Youtube 720p, Skype…. PSN only gets youtube 360p.

      We also get Kinect Show, IGN Strategize, Insider moves, Xbox 101, Rooster Teeth, Major Nelson… ALL FREE TV SHOWS..

      Do you also get a free fan base for your exclusives??? Ermm… no you dont! We get Halo Waypoint…. the “COD ELITE” of Halo. Ohh yeah, I forgot… We also get a SPECIALLY integrated COD ELITE.

      We also dont have to pay for Online Passes for exclusive games unlike your precious PS3 exclusives…

      Yeah thats what I get for Xbox Live. Which is $5 a month. Im sorry, but thats how much I pay for it…

      Yup, I thought so…

  • avatar
    heavenswarrior121
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    Shoukd we try to wait and buy the next generations of consoles after first day launch? We all know what happen with the early creations of the 360 millions of people got rrod ALOT…and ps3 launch problems were nowear near as bad as 360′s only 10%of the early ps3′s got ylod and the some ps3′s stop reading disk and thats about it

    Hopefully they take there time and do these next consoles right and give us a two year war* lol

    • avatar
      TBone

      What sucks if you’re part of the PS3 10% is that it’s a $150 repair or buy a slim. Though MS was forced to offer free repairs, an owner with an RROD after a year was a lot better off then a PS3 owner with a disc drive error after a year.

      All systems need to improve reliability, cheaper repair pricing, and maybe mandatory 3 year warranty’s.

      Only thing I see Sony needs improving is this whole download demo then download again to play, 10 min updates, and long updates to play games. Took me 20 minutes before I could play Heavy Rain last night. Sure it could be my internet, but this is not an issue on my xbox. This alone makes paying for online worthwhile for me. If Sony needs $3 a month to improve this, they can have my money.

    • avatar
      Donky Dic

      PS+ has full game trials. So if you download and buy then there is no second download.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      30 min download then another 10 min install.

  • avatar
    heavenswarrior121
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    Lol the funny and bad part about that 10% of ylod for ps3′s my ps3 is one of them -__- my 80bg baby is sittin right in my closet with mw2 still stuck in there but ima just buy a ps3 slim sooner or later just not worried about games right now…

    But the design for the ps4 should stay the same as the first ps3 with touch sensative buttons,black with more chrome trimming,and to put two games in the system at once

  • avatar
    reality
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    Again with the exclusives, seriously? They don’t sell, they aren’t full of content, the replayability blows, they only have 8-11 maps, campaign modes are 4-8hrs long, and did I mention they don’t sell? Yeah I would much rather have 60,000 people to play against than 600,000. I would much rather spend $60 on a 4hr campaign that has 0 replayability. I’d much rather spend $60 on a game with a 4hr campaign with 0 replayability that is nothing more than a bunch of short action sequences, that also has 8 multiplayer maps that I’ve gotten tired of after 5 days of play. For those unaware I speak of Uncharted (though I do play the shit out of, but cmon 7 new maps with 3 throwbacks is weak as fuck), God of War 3, Killzone 3, aka the only good exclusives that are still lower than COD in the replayability realm, and that’s what makes a great game, how much/often you play it.

  • avatar
    reality
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    Also those games are all 720p not 1080p so they’re not full HD, so much for taking advantage of the bluray.

  • avatar
    Cool Dude must die
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    Wow cool dude, if it’s so good, why aren’t you playing it?! RROD again?! XD or maybe your Live subscription ran out. You seem to forget how they charge for alot of the features Live just offers. Netflix?! You have to pay twice basically just to use it. Once for Live and once for the actual service. Good money thrown away. That’s why the failbox is such an epic FAIL!!! For things like that and you are idiots for supporting it.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      I pay Xbox Live because I know that its worth my money. It only costs a whopping $5 a month. Im happy with it. I have a Xbox 360 slim, deemed to be as reliable as the Ps3 slim. So sorry, i havent had a RROD. You have no idea how much Xbox live can do over your fraglie, unsecured and Slow connection PSN.

      Troll…

  • avatar
    reality
    REPLY

    Cool Dude, games are 720p native and are upscaled to 1080p. The PS3 exclusives don’t upscale, they stay in 720p.
    So, $8 for Netflix that can be accessed through your pc, Wii, Xbox, PS3, bluray player, internet enabled tv, so you’re not actually paying to enable it on xbox, you’re paying to access the app. Xbox still has more to offer than PS3, Allen who is using a different name, you’re just too stupid to realize it. RROD is a thing of the past, they extended the warranty, replaced, for free, every console that had the RROD, Live has not been hacked like PSN, Live is adding features, PSN takes them away. Face it, $5/mo is better than the free piece of shit called PSN.

    • avatar
      A113n

      Actually even though cool dude is a blind loyalist to xbox I do not wish him to die and did not write that. Is it possible reality that you are cool dude? Yes of course it is.

      But I do have some respect for cool dude. In the end he just wants every one to be happy like me. He gets all pissed off sometimes about me ragging on the xbox 360 but I rag on the xbox with valid points. I don’t needlessly rag on it and it is well deserved.

      Nintendo – Has true exclusives, has never put out a piece of $hit console (failures), includes some features even though they never add video play back, has correctly priced hardware for what it offers which include an internet browser and wifi along with no charge to purchase a sub to netflix. Also Nintendo has never done anything in the past to make a person feel ripped off or scammed.

      Playstation – The brand that has always given the most and to this point has dominated the world with it’s quality, it’s games, it’s epic controller and it’s innovation. Playstation has redefined what a successful console would achieve.

      PC – The best of the best, highest quality, best graphics, ever expanding, ever evolving, quickly upgrading with the most features anyone can offer. But for the highest price. Other than lacking PS3 exclusives there is no arguing that PC is simply the best of the best and always will be because of hope open and upgradeable it is.

      Xbox – Has done so many scams I don’t need to rename them all. I listed some above. Xbox was okay with me last gen but they have gone off the money whore deep end and they have wronged me, the gaming industry, friends of mine dearly. I will never support or even think of supporting such an aweful, scamming, overpriced, arrogant, son of a bitch company which is xbox.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Even though you called me a “Blind loyalist”….

      Smiley… :)

      Im not “reality”. If you have looked at my past comments, I have never put a “swear word” in it.

      Plus, merely paying $5 a month for a whole heap of desirable Features and improvements… I don’t think its a scam..

      And…. PSX and PS2 did dominate the console world… but not PS3. As you have seen, PS3 is lagging behind PS2′s sales in its time frame. PS3 is behind in sales by Millions and Millions of units i think its about 50-60 Million units behind the PS2 in this time frame of release. Sorry but I dont call that “success”…

      In the other hand, Microsoft has made a name for itself. Original Xbox sold 25 million in its lifetime, however the Xbox 360 will continue to sell strongly, probably even passing triple of what the Original Xbox has sold. Plus if you asked me a few years ago what the Xbox franchise was… I probably could have said “PS2 FTW!!!”

      Dont even get me started at Software sales….

      Plus, Microsoft is the first american company to EVER enter AND succeed in the console market. Sega, Atari, Nintendo, Sony, etc are all Japanese. Microsoft really did make a good job of making a name for itself.

      So even though the Ps3 will sell more than the Xbox 360 (50-50 chance). Microsoft still succeeded and Sony did not.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Again, I wont buy Xbox 720 or the PS4 next gen…

      Well at least when I know who’s worth my money.

    • avatar
      A113n

      No way dude. I don’t understand why anyone thinks Sony needs to be as high as the PS2 to be considered sucessful.

      And I didn’t mean to say that PS3 is dominating, I said to this point Playstation dominated the world. This gen is really hard. Nintendo took the major lead, to the point where Xbox and Playstation won’t reach. Or at least not for another 5 years and by then a new console will be here.

      Playstation is only 100 million software units behind xbox, I think playstation is at 400 + million and Xbox at 500+ million if I remember right.

      So Xbox is only doing a little better and considering the entire year head start, $200 better price tag and the fact that online play is huge this generation and xbox won that online market with it’s head start it’s actually kind of pathetic how little xbox’s numbers are.

      Playstation has had to compete with Nintendo, Xbox and hefty price tag at launch. They do not need to meet the same sales as THE BEST SELLING CONSOLE IN HISTORY in order to be considered successful. Really I say PS3 is mostly a loss for Sony but is going to put them in a really great position on PS4. Seeing as how Blu ray will most certainly be in there and developers now know how to write code for it and that Sony’s taking more and more market share back.

      And final word, PS3 will outsell 360 in the next year or so. it is a for sure thing that Xbox is in last place this gen, a step back from 2nd last gen.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Face it Allen. The Playstation franchise is doing crap right now as compared to the 5th and 6th gen.

      PSX Sold 100 million (5th gen)

      Ps2 Sold 150 Million (6th gen) + 50 million units

      Ps3 Sold or will sell 70-75 million (7th gen) – 80 million units

      Xbox franchise:

      Xbox sold 25 million (6th gen)

      Xbox 360 sold or will sell 70-75 million (7th gen) +50 million

      Only a blind fanboy such as you wont be able to read the numbers.

      And your calling 100 million units a “Little behind”???? Denial????

      Yeah, I thought so..

    • avatar
      A113N

      Nintendo won this generation. That’s where most of PS3′s sales went to.

      PS3 is selling really well right now, best in the world.

      PS2 is the fking best selling console in history. TO MEET THAT WOULD MEAN PS3 WOULD HAVE TO BE THE BEST OR 2ND BEST IN HISTORY.

      HOW THE FK HARD IS THAT TO DO?

      Why would anyone think Sony NEEDS to beat or meet last gen is mind boggling to me.

      NES was a successful console that changed the gaming world and is Nintendo’s 2nd best selling console in history. It only sold like 64 MIllion units.

      So in the end Nintendo wins

      Xbox loses because it’s in 3rd

      And Sony will take 2nd for the first time in their life.

      Also I didn’t see anyone say Nintendo was an epic fail for Super Nintendo, N64 or Game Cube, now they came in with their best selling one ever.

      Yes Xbox has done better this gen. BY DEFAULT as the only next gen for a year and gaining the “Online Market”.

      THAT’S IT

      With PS4 coming out at the same time or earlier and with hardware priced at $399 at launch Xbox will be a thing of the past.

      Cool dude you logic is just off.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Wow, so your expecting a console to fail before it comes out. Maybe 2-3 years from now. No, my logic is not off and your just not seeing it.

      You saw the numbers, You saw the HUGE decline, You cant deny HARD evidence.

      You cant blame MS for making good decisions and for making the Xbox brand popular. Yes they released a year earlier and it could be a possibility that Xbox 360 could have lost this gen by a mile if it wasnt for the “Year advantage” but in the end its SONY’s MISTAKE for not releasing the same year.

      Thats a very weak logic… Ps3 has to drop their price for $150 just to catch up to the Xbox 360. Xbox 360 never truly dropped their price since 2008 yet it is still selling very very well against all odds. Were yet to see a price drop which if executed in the right time, could send the Playstation franchise to the grave….

      Xbox 360 selling weak?? Im sorry… This week..

      415,644 units this week

      Ps3

      359,101 units this week

      Last week..

      Xbox 360

      502,954 units last week

      Ps3

      375,376 units last week

      Did you also know that MS is the first AMERICAN Company to ever ENTER and SUCCEED in the console market? Quite a feat….

      Sega, Atari, Nintendo, Sony… All Japanese….

      Xbox franchise is not a sinking boat like Sega. There is plenty of room to make a mistake by MS next gen and the Playstation brand is very strong as well but could also make a mistake.

      Do not predict next gen with such a weak logic. Do not base your logic on biased opinions which is a very bad issue with you and your friend named “Fanboyism”.

    • avatar
      A113n

      So Sony beating Xbox but losing market share to Nintendo means that it failed?

      So each and every new product released must be match or be better than the last to be considered successful? Even when the last product you made was the highest selling of all time?

      That’s where your logic is off. To see what’s successful you need to look at the past. Both Sony and Xbox are going to end up with enormous amounts of sales by the end of the generation. Passing Nintendo’s second best selling console which was their best before this gen. Which was the NES @ 64 million sold.

      Failure would be Xbox’s and Game Cube numbers last gen.

      Sony does not need to meet or beat 150 Million to be considered successful. That’s just crazy. How in the world do you expect a company to beat all time sales high’s?

      Why can’t they all be considered sucessful? This has never been done before, never has everyone sold so many. Only a blind SOB would look over Sony’s great selling numbers this gen.

      Sony is doing great. Nintendo took a lot this gen and Xbox won a lot by default. Because it was the only one for an entire year and it won the online market.

      Unless Xbox makes some serious changes I don’t see them doing well next gen. And even though I love Nintendo I don’t see them being close to #1 either. Mainly because they are not going to take enough advantage of their head start. Nintendo should focus on online play and graphics along with their powerful 1st party exclusives. Now that would be hard to beat. But my feeling is that they are not putting enough in online or graphics.

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      Cool dude

      Allen, the Playstation brand has won all the console war for over 10 years now…TEN YEARS! I truly know what you mean. PS3 doesnt have to beat PS2 or PSX…. But the PS3 would and never will be a success. It never improved its name when you compare it to the past generations, actually the Playstation brand just became a whole lot smaller I believe and the Nintendo and Xbox brand has just risen from the ashes of defeat from last generation.

      Yeah, I know Xbox 360 released a whole year before Ps3… BUT GUESS WHAT? You need to ACCEPT that its Sony’s fault. Its Sony’s mistake. Its THAT MISTAKE that made the Playstation name a whole lot smaller.

      I measure success from improvements, sales, innovation and etc compared from the last generation…. Sorry but I just think that Sony is lacking most of them this generation. The only thing thats carrying their healthy sales is their recognizable past reputation and there I dare say… Blu-Ray.

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      A113n

      yes, Sony made some mistakes this gen. They were way too ambitious and gave us way more than the competition.

      But PS4 is going to be in a great position, made possible because of PS4.

      Next Gen Blu ray will still be here, developers know how to write for it now so it won’t be behind there and Sony will do nothing but improve PSN.

      All they need to do is release at the same time and at a decent price like $399

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      Cool dude

      As I said… I wont buy an Xbox 720 or Ps4 till I know whos really worth my money…

    • avatar
      adrian

      You guys are talking about US sales. In Europe and Japan PS3 is leading by quite a margin: xbox 360 22.5 million vs ps3 27

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    reality
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    DCUO took a 6hr download, along with 1 1/2hr install, at 18gb, imagine how long it would take for Uncharted 3 that sits at 45gb!

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    Lolall3n
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    They might not need blu-ray but they def will need a high capacity media maybe something like nintendos wii u is doing. Blu-ray is nice but streaming services such as netflix , live hell even psn movie service are great for hd content. Why most still like owning blu ray DVDs, the same people already have own so I do agree blu ray is not needed but high storage space will be. Even though I can not understand how skyrim fit on a DVD 9……most developers are still scratching there heads too

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    reality
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    Copy colors? Really? That matters somehow? Wasn’t the original Xbox black? Who gives a shit about colors, nintendo wins with the black/white/red choices, again no one but you cares about colors. Allen, the PS3 is a flop, the numbers prove that, and yes the PS3 should easily meet PS2 numbers through brand familiarity, but they don’t. PS3 is a flop unless it can match the sales of the PS2, clearly you prove again you know nothing about business. 100mil units is far more than a small lead, that’s a significant lead, you prove again you know not how numbers work. 360 is a huge success, look at the numbers, that’s what they show – Xbox to 360 success, PS2 to PS3 a flop. These numbers matter because they dictate how much resources can and will be poured into the next system. Bluray is unnecessary, Uncharted 3 is barely better than 2. Third party games are mostly better on 360. Bluray is a waste at this stage, nothing is taking advantage of it, nothing. Blurays can do 1080p full hd, give me the list of games that have this, go ahead, try, because there are no games that utilize it. All that is needed is 8gb total for current games, not 50gb. I believe games like Skyrim, Gears, Forza, and the majority of third party games proves it. Finally, who cares about FF7 anymore? Haven’t we all played it already? So why give Sony the double dip? Oh, forgot, blind PS3 fanboy diehards, that’s who.

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    reality
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    Here’s a good flop example, for those unaware of how that works – (hypothetical numbers btw) Batman movie comes out, grosses $700mil, part 2 comes out and grosses $200mil, part 2 Is a flop, see how that works?

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    reality
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    Ok, so I guess trying to show what a flop is, is more difficult with stupid people. Ok so let’s take GTA 4, it sells 700mil units and GTA 5 sells 200mil units (numbers made up to prove point btw), GTA 5 is considered a flop since it sold 500mil less units, for GTA 5 to be a successful sequel it must meet or beat the previous versions units sold. How/why is this so hard to understand? Simple fucking business concepts with simple fucking math. Damn you people are stupid.

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    reality
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    To measure success look at sales figures and sales figures alone. Your thoughts on how innovative or unique a product is has nothing to do with how successful the product is. How hard is that? Your personal opinion can not factor in to what you consider a success, because it doesn’t work like that. I personally don’t like Final Fantasy games at all, but there are millions who disagree. You know, having spent more than 5min on such an elementary level concept is more than what I care to spend, a 5yr old child can understand these concepts, so why/how are, seemingly, adults having trouble? Is it that you don’t understand or that you simply choose to sound stupid to see what comments arise?

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      A113n

      I never read all your crap reality because like I just implied, it’s just a bunch of crap spewed from your mouth.

      But if you look at sales PS3 has sold more, how else does it “catch up” to you?

      I think I said this to you before, I’ll do it again.

      You start running now. I’ll wait an entire year to start. If I catch up to you then you must suck really bad

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    reality
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    Allen, you forgot to mention all that free stuff you detailed (PS+) requires a $50/yr payment.

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    A113n
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    Okay so Reality is saying that

    Super NES, N64 & Game cube were all total horrible, ugly failures!

    Does everyone agree with that?

    Because I think those are wonderful systems, just because they didn’t sell well doesn’t mean they weren’t great. Also it’s not like the PS3 is any where near low numbers, they are actually very high. They all are this gen.

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      Cool dude

      “They are all high this gen” Umm, im sorry….

      But I thought that Xbox 360 has “failed miserably” in sales according to you??

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      A113n

      No I never said that. I know Xbox is selling well, hell it’s still sold more than Playstation.

      I wrote out just about every single console that matter’s sales the other day. And I specifically said how awesome it was that every console has sold so many. Never has every console in a gen been so high and usually 1 console wins the majority and the other mostly fails.

      Like this:

      Sega Genesis – 39 Million ——- Super Nintendo – 49.10 Million

      Both were considered successful and I loved both

      N64 – 32.93 Million ———– PS1 – 102.49 Million

      That Gen Sony dominated, but I loved N64 too

      Game Cube – 21.74 Million ——— Xbox – 24 million ———— PS2 150 Million

      Again Sony dominated, but I loved Game Cube and Didn’t have a problem with Xbox last gen.

      Wii – 89.36 Million ——— 360 – 57.6 Million ———- PS3 – 55.5 Million

      Can’t you see that this gen is unlike any other? All are successful? And if indeed 360/PS3 lasted a full 10 years every single one of them would be close to 100 Million?

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    reality
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    They flopped, they failed to live up to the sales expectations set by their predecessors. That is how it goes. That’s what the company and shareholders see. Way to prove me right you fucking idiot.

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    adrian
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    those sales represent Europe only

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    SuperTrainStationH
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    If sony’s learned their lesson, the’ll stop trying to sell their system on high performance alone make the system accessible, relatively inexpensive, and easy to develop for, with a wide variety of games in all genres.

    That’s how they won with PS1 and PS2, the fact that they abandoned that and decided to pursue horsepower advantage and lean on a “hardcore” reputation with PSP and PS3 baffles me.