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PS4 Update 2.0’s Share Play And Music Player Have Limitations

| October 21, 2014

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Sony Computer Entertainment Japan and Asia have shared some more new details of the upcoming PS4 update 2.0 that highlight some limitations.

Although most of the information about PS4 update 2.0 were announced last week, there is some details that have been missed. These new details highlighted today are important for those that want to know exactly the limitations some of the new features will have.

The Dualshockers managed to dissect and translate the highlights of the post.

The first thing you need to know about the USB Music Player in PS4 update 2.0 is that you CANNOT “copy music files from USB to the internal hard disk of the PS4“. This is unlike on the PS3 where you can store MP3 files on the hard drive.

You cannot use the USB Music Player at the same time as the Music Unlimited app. This is understandable obviously. Tracks that you play using the USB Music Player are not heard during livestreams and videos that your PS4 records either.

As for the Share Play app, it has some limitations of its own too, but still sounds cool. If you are in a party with 8 people, Share Play can only be used by one other person at one time. Share Play time is limited to only one hour, but you can start a new session immediately after a previous session expires.

There will be certain games that will have some scenes that won’t allow you to have Share Play. This is probably done to avoid spoilers for some games. When you use Share Play, you cannot use Remote Play or livestream gameplay. Also, your guest cannot “save video clips and screenshots during Share Play

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  • fredred

    yea we know.hence why is called USB music and is a given that Sony was going restrict share play slightly otherwise people be abusing it

  • wickedproxy

    Ugh! I just want to be able to play a music cd or copy it and mp3 files to my hard drive! Anything short of that is a waste of my time music wise Sony.

    • Whiskey Red Balls

      Dude you can fit a ton of music on a USB stick. Just plop it in and its just like being on your hard drive except it’s not taking up unnecessary room.

      • sampson3121

        hes a whiner, sure hes been told that before.

        • ?????

          You like to whine about many things.

          • Xbots are douches

            Look at you ignorant fauq xbots minority. You should start your own club to gather the few remaining xbox fans there are.

            Butthurt Xbots – submit your request to join today

          • ?????

            Silly fanboy. At least 7 million at this point. I’d rather be there than in a community where people spout random bullshit, insult or threaten people, or ruin the gaming industry.

          • sampson3121

            what, you sucking his dic-k or something?

          • ?????

            That didn’t even make any sense.
            The mentality of PS fanboys these days.

          • sjdjdjdj

            Fuck up cunt

          • ?????

            Oh, big boy. Proving my point PS4 is full of over aggressive 12 year olds.
            You’re the person I would shove your face in the toilet bowl in school had we attended the same one.

      • Antonio Mangione

        only sh*tty thing is we need more usb ports. I have my controller/keyboard plugged in and my mouse if need be. Just feels like they could easily get around usb with a streaming service like Xbobx 360 had.

        I should be able to play the music/movies/tv shows on my computer over on my ps4.

    • Holeybartender

      Here’s a thought, why not use all that space for,oh I don’t know, videogames…?

      • wickedproxy

        Well since the first thing I did was put a 2 TB hard drive in it that I already had I have plenty of room. I just want them to support cd playback and also let me put mp3 and mp4 files on it. It should have done this out of the box.

        • EsperStarr

          tbh. I think the USB music player is a pretty resourceful idea. I mean after a while you that space is detrimental for games, patches and dlc. Smart move.

        • kidtrill

          People Sony made this system for developers in mind…its a gaming machine that is quite powerful. Use it as such smh!!! U got a laptop, phones, etc. for all that extea crap.

          • businessman

            The system made for the “customer” .developers aren’t the ones who you should focus marketing to. Give the people what they want and skys the limit.if I had the ability to make my own version of the ps4 wit all the capabilities that people want I would have a monopoly and xbone nd ps4 would be irrelevant

    • Jerome T

      100% correct. Sony are b!tches.

    • Brad Stansell

      I think Sony is actually removing features from the de-facto standard in this case. Not since the first generation of Blu-Ray players has one not been able to play a standard Audio CD. But those players omitted a red laser so it was understandable. The PS4 is perfectly capable of playing DVDs which means it has to include a red laser so the inability to play Audio CDs is a conscious decision by Sony to omit it (or dare I say, prevent it) on the software side.

      Many of these media issues could be solved if Sony were to simply port a version of VLC over to the PS4 (which is built on Linux anyway). You’d have DLNA, media conversion, CD playback, Divx playback, etc. It’s kind of pathetic when Sony claims to be a friend of the gamer and then takes so friggin’ long to give us features that were standard in the last generation of consoles.

  • The PC Master Race

    Sony Music Limited

    • wastheman

      Retard alert

    • Yeah

      This post was kind of clever haha

    • Mike

      Music unlimited actually works out well for me. I don’t use it but my daughters all love it. They never ask to buy songs anymore. They just download them to their ipods and have basically every song ever made. Plus Sony knows most people haven’t paid for their mp3s, why let them use them?

      • The PC Master Race

        That’s some fine shilling there, San Mateo. Shame it doesn’t work on the enlightened.

        • Mike

          Thieves you mean.

          • James

            Yes because clearly 100% of digital music files are stolen. It’s not like people can rip cds or anything. Speaking of which I still want FLAC support.

          • Mike

            Alot more of it stolen than it is legit.

        • $113353191

          Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to normal, sane people.

    • $113353191

      Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All
      of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to
      normal, sane people..

  • 02sscamaro

    release date already

  • JCheezy

    If that’s an actual recent screenshot then I’m embarrassed for you. If it’s actually a 1986 screenshot like it appears to be then never mind.

    • Rollin

      What is this BS you are saying? 1986? This looks sweet, jealous much of the awesome features?

      Cable pass through! Wow!

      PS4 is so much better. Don’t take my word for it. Take the 4+ million xbox 360 gamers that switched and are happy with it’s word. LMAO fauqing loser

      • RKO!

        Where you get that number?

        • sampson3121

          probably more actually.

        • DrumStickNinja

          1 in 3 PS4 gamers switched per a few surveys

          • Guest

            This guy (?????) created a fake Disqus account and is impersonating you
            https://disqus.com/by/Drumstickninja/

            He has done the same with other users. I would suggest to report him using the report option of his profile so they can ban his ass.

      • JCheezy

        Haha. Yeah right. Don’t get mad. When you say so much better, what do you mean by that. Hopefully you don’t mean it’s better then Live because then it’s obvious your an absolute idiot. So please tell me that’s not what you mean.

        • Fallen_Persona

          Well, let’s see. I’m pretty sure all you need to do is look at it’s sales for that.

          Then we can talk about the controller, the GPU, memory type, Persona 5, Bloodborne, 1080P, sales=games, superior multi-platform suport, and finally, share play.

          Did I miss anything? As far as a gaming console goes, that’s…you know, quite a few things. Oh, and PS+ is less expensive. That too.

      • ?????

        Snap, Twitch, etc.
        Xbox has better features and games.
        Ps4 has neither.

        • ????? Question your loyalty

          Snap? Twitch? LMAO

          Friend Spectate/Take over mode
          Game Share
          Must faster boot times
          Faster loading and install times
          More powerful console proven by far, unlike 360/PS3 which was BS
          Touch Pad, Light Bar, Gyroscope, Recharge batteries included in $60 cost
          Must better subscription service
          Free exclusive content in AAA multi plats
          SUPPORT – How’s that for a feature! We have 9 years of support VS your 4!

          Xbox has games? LMAO like WHAT!? Ryse that’s on PC? Project Spark that’s on PC? Dead Rising 3 that’s on PC? You have burned out Halo and Failza lmao

          Oh I’m sure xbone is worth is just for the old Halo remakes LMAO yeah right. I’ll pick up an xbone after xbox division gets sold for pennies on the dollar!

          • Amin Trouble
          • ?????

            Lets see-
            Loading times improved.
            Touch pad is barely even used, ripped off Wii U touch screen
            Who gives a crap about the light bar? It drains the battery
            Kinect has motion gaming.
            I can recharge my batteries.
            Xbox Live works much better.
            Free exclusive content that people forget about in a week.
            Original Xbox Online lasted 9-10 years.
            Games on Xbox-
            Fantasia
            Sunset Overdrive
            Halo
            Forza
            Dead Rising 3
            Killer Instinct
            Fable
            Crackdown
            Scalebound
            Project Spark
            Ori and the Blind Forest
            Titanfall
            Ryse Son of Rome
            Rumored Gears, Alan Wake
            Phantom Dust
            And how is that TLOU remake? The only game worth playing on PS4?
            Silly fanboy and you’re ignorance..

          • Fallen_Persona

            Except that, somehow, even with all of that, the Xbox One is still getting blown out of the market?

            Maybe if Microsoft spent less money on buying exclusives and more money on actually marketing the console correctly and not attempting to make their target audience angry with idiotic policy, they could actually sell a console or two.

            Meanwhile, heard they got crushed in September, didn’t they?

            Meanwhile Persona 5 is still exclusive. Stay salty, my friend.

            Signed, a former Xbox player.

    • Robert Davidson

      Don’t worry. I’ve heard that all major cable providers worldwide are making their universal remotes compatible with your X-Cable-Box straight from the factory. You blinded loyal fan boys win again ;)

      • JCheezy

        Huh?

    • $113353191

      Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to normal, sane people.

  • stillwaitingforgreatness

    wow nearly as many as the xbox one lol

    • ?????

      xbox one? What’s that?

      • ?????

        Look how Guest is using my name.

      • stillwaitingforgreatness

        The console that gets monthly updates unlike others

        • ?????

          Sorry, Guest is using my name to spout bullshit.

    • $113353191

      Big surprise, ANOTHER article swarming with mentally diseased, blind, pure evil microsoft shill human waste. They are a worthless and sick pestilence.

      Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to normal, sane people.

      You are sick, lying, blind, hypocritical, ignorant, constantly wrong, mentally diseased, pure evil fanboy waste.

      • stillwaitingforgreatness

        it’s the truth, you have had 1 update is it since launch while the xbox has had one every month.

      • stillwaitingforgreatness

        And your a k n o b

  • Time to move on

    Worthless. About as worthless as playstation now. Gotta be honest ps4 sucks ass. Moving on to xbox one, least thay have good games and a network that works. Pickin me up forza horizon sunset overdrive and Halo. PS4 is a joke.

    • Jurgen Klopp

      good games lol. enjoy forza 5 as thats the only xbox one exclusive so far lol

      • bardock5151

        Really, you’re that stupid? Lol try harder.

    • sampson3121

      ok bot…you buy another crapbox #1 lol, troll

      • JCheezy

        Good one………??!??

      • ?????

        Go buy something that doesn’t have any games worth playing.
        Crapbox 1? Wow, look at this screaming 6 year old.

        • sampson3121

          how would you know that? you always checking up on ps4? look at the title of this article..i would say yes !

          ddr3!

          • ?????

            And look at all the PS fanboys trolling Xbox articles.
            Better Online.

        • $113353191

          Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to normal, sane people.

      • Lonny

        Pot calling the kettle black…. Both systems are awesome and each have things the other doesn’t. I play both systems equally but for online gaming I use the X1 because that’s where most of my online friends are. There really is no reason for these fanboy wars just go enjoy the system you prefer.

        • sampson3121

          how can i be a troll on a ps4 article? i’m here for info, hes here being the troll.

          • Lonny

            you called him a bot then proceeded to call the xbox One Crapbox #1 that makes it no better then his stupid comments. Just makes you sound like a fanboy not a troll.

          • sampson3121

            like i said, this whole conversation wouldn’t even be happening if these guys would just stop trolling ps4 articles because they’re insecure about their ddr3 720p purchase.
            being a fanboy is just sticking to one product, whats wrong with that? trolling is when you go from site to site to put down things that others enjoy.

    • Fallen_Persona

      Yawn. Halo hasn’t been good for a long time. Forza? lol.

      Xbox One is the joke, literally. How are the sales going?

    • $113353191

      Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to normal, sane people.

      You are sick, lying, blind, hypocritical, ignorant, constantly wrong, mentally diseased, pure evil fanboy waste.

  • the kid

    I’m getting sick and tired of these “limitations” when it comes to these next gen consoles, it’s getting boring too fast.

    • DrumStickNinja

      PS3 is still selling and supported if ya don’t like it.

      USB coming, DLNA coming, 3D blu ray is here and some amazing features with game share and friend spectate/take over!

      If PS Now comes down in price I’ll be really happy.

      • the kid

        Very true… PS Now does have to drop, I’ve been with Sony from the very beginning (ah… the good old days with the PS1… good times, pixeled time, but still) Anyway… not for that price.

        • rossthebassist

          playstation now needs to be a netflix style sub for me. but the technology is promising.

          • Druid

            I think an annual sub is coming, it was hinted. Still the rentals are far too high. I like to think of the blockbuster rentals – $3.99 or so for a couple days.

      • Brad Stansell

        Yeah, but PS4 has the better graphics… on occasion. Ironically enough when I brought my issue with GTA5 (purchased on the PSStore about 2 weeks before I upgraded to PS4) to Sony, that’s pretty much what they said “no one told you to sell your PS3”. Yeah, like I’m the only one who sold their PS3 so they could afford a PS4.

        Anyway, I don’t care for the USB media player functionality. Seems like a lame effort to shut us up and push us to Music Unlimited. DLNA would be nice but it’s not a necessity for me. Even game share isn’t that amazeballs to me since Steam has been doing that for a while now (LAN streaming, family sharing), not to mention some details that have recently come to light about certain parts of the game not being shown to the other person. Great, so now programmers have to go in and delineate which parts are shown and which parts aren’t, making for an even more difficult developer workflow.

        PS Now… just blows my mind… in a bad way. Just sell me the friggin game so I can play it when I want to. Game rentals have never been a viable system for distribution. I can remember a few systems in the 90’s tried the whole renting scheme and failed miserably.

        I dunno, seems like they’re just looking over all the important features and giving us window dressing to shut us up.

        • Meh

          3D blu ray, MP3 support even if only in USB, DLNA support, Themes

          I don’t know what they are missing

  • Robert Davidson

    Tears , Snot, Dribble. . . And, repeat !

  • Brad Stansell

    Honestly… what was wrong with the PS3 interface? I recognize the consoles have different architectures but come on! Recompile the source and spend more time on ENHANCING what was already there instead of wasting time grudgingly adding the features we already had! DLNA, PS Home, organized games, basic remote support, CD playback (like anyone uses CDs), better social audio support….

    I honestly thought the PS4 interface would be a step up and beyond. That PS Home would fly instead of taking forever to load (hell, PS Home had a whole room devoted to getting me to buy a PS4). That my Logitech Harmony Hub would have no problem connecting via bluetooth like it did with the PS3. Why do games that require the disc to be inserted appear on my home screen at all (just show me the disc that’s currently inserted!)? Why can’t the audio/party system automatically connect to my current fire team/team in Destiny (is that an option somewhere I’m missing?) or any multiplayer team for that matter (I’m only playing Destiny with others right now)? Why is the Hulu interface seemingly separate from the rest of the PS4 (text entry, anybody) and why does the video look like crap (I mean come on, my Apple TV streams Hulu better, and it’s on wireless)?

    What does my Facebook connection actually do? I was assuming it would find other friends of mine who’ve connected their PS4s and present them as possible PSN friends. Or possibly even show Facebook updates/chats in the notifications (although I doubt I would want it to). As far as I can tell it only provides links when I’m broadcasting games. Also, why don’t you provide integration with Google+ (YouTube is coming, right?) or better integration with Twitter for that matter?

    And while I recognize that it’s not technically your highest priority… the iOS app for PS is pure crap. I dunno about Android but you guys could sure take a cue from Apple’s Remote app for Apple TV.

    Come on Sony. This is supposed to be the superior console catering to gamers’ needs. I don’t even mind day-one patches and I love the games themselves, but the UI seems like it’s damn near ancient… barely above my standalone Blu-Ray player and falling way below the standards you set with the PS3. It’s like you’ve shot yourself in the foot and just enjoy watching the blood drain out. And I don’t think ‘themes’ and simple YouTube support are really gonna rectify its shortcomings.

    • Fallen_Persona

      PS3 was the worst console last generation. Sure, it had features, but the XMB was an awful menu for the PS3. I loved the PSP version, but the PS3 one was just a clutter with the ridiculous amount of unnecessary crap they tried to throw in there without cleaning it up.

      If you need google to figure out what the things on your console do…you’re doing it wrong.

      • Brad Stansell

        You needed Google to figure that out? I mean to each his own but I thought it was pretty clean, especially coming from an Xbox 360. Now Microsoft threw in crap on that menu every time you turned it on. Not saying the XMB was a perfect system, but at least it was organized. Video, Music, Game, Home, Internet, etc.

        I dunno, maybe I’m alone but the current design of the PS4’s menu seems like a mess. I don’t want to see the apps in the order I’ve used them, evoking the Windows ‘Recently Used’ in the Start Menu. And placing Settings, Users, Notifications, etc. as a menu up top just reminds me of Windows 8… yuck. The Library ‘tool’ makes no sense whatsoever and should be called ‘Downloaded Content’ or whatever it catalogues. Music and Video Unlimited should be one app and have the option to hide it, but I suppose that would involve combining the service. Capture Gallery and ShareFactory should be one app, possibly even combined with Live from Playstation. Do I really need two permanent links to the PS Store?

        The whole thing is just a cluster and I really don’t think this 2.0 release will do much to change any of it.

        • Fallen_Persona

          Sounds to me that you really like minimalist design menus. I found W8 a bit hard to use, but nothing problematic, and I find Xbox 360 a million times less problematic. I feel like the categories in the late 360 (not the blades, uggh. They were awful) were done very well, and made sure to put features in the location that to me, felt the most intuitive to use.

          They made sure to actually swap between screens and not place the whole thing among one or two pieces of an interface to display an entire console worth of options. A newcomer coming into the PS3 interface at the latest version to, say, figure out how much Hard Drive space they have, would have no idea why “System Settings” would be your overview of your hard drive space tied to the bottom.

          What I feel the PS4 needs is categories. I personally really like the interface, but I can see where people would have issues if they were coming from PS3, because despite the lack of information about the system contents, things were in specific groups. Personally, I came from 360, but I also have a PS3 (though I desperately want to sell it)

          Realistically, Live from PlayStation should be in a PSN category, Music and Video Unlimited should be with apps, Gallery should be in the top bar, and ShareFactory should be an app. Gallery and Share are two different things, especially because so many people don’t need it. Remember, Apps are different from Applications in that they normally perform specific functions and are less robust to be less of a pain to the user.

          Not like it bothers me, I’m a power user, which is why if I don’t understand something, I research it (like all the PS3’s menu options) instead of just shutting the thing off and whining (Most Windows 8 users).

          • Brad Stansell

            I agree W8 is difficult to use. I think its main problem stems from it’s optimization for touch-screen devices and forcing that on an environment (desktop) that is dominated by mouse and keyboard interfaces.

            Consoles are a different monster altogether. In terms of interface, I think the Wii was the most navigable of the last generation. Not without its faults though, I think it could have used some grouping akin to iOS to round it out. For what it was, at least the PS3 had native categorization. If I was going to watch Netflix or Hulu or (insert favorite video service here) I would go to the video icon. My saved game data would appear under (ironically) the Game icon. Network connected apps like PS Store and PS Home would be under the Internet icon… and so on and so forth.

            The PS 4 just has so many convoluted choices in comparison. There’s a PS Store on the main menu, as well as my notification menu just above it. Why? If they’re going to have my notification menu show me my friends online or parties available, why can’t I just select them from that by pressing up again? Why do I have to open the app to select the info that’s already presented to me? Contrivances, obviously but these things can be life or death when you’re trying to connect while in-game. I guess like you I’m just pining for some logical organization instead of the superficial YouTube sharing (YouTube browsing, definitely) and themes.

    • Jerome T

      I use Cd’s, f#ck digital media with nothing physical! If your internet goes down, No digital usage.
      I own hundreds of CD’s, DVD’s and BD’s… So does millions of other people. Digital only is for qu33rs.

      • Brad Stansell

        Ok, calm down. It was a joke. I’m an avid DVD/Blu-Ray collector myself. And I agree, I don’t see a reason why Sony doesn’t have CD support. But let’s face it, you can’t be playing a game and a CD at once (unless of course you’re using headphones).

        But there’s really no reason to be insulting people here. Digital media is enjoyed by many people (and doesn’t require a constant internet connection, mind you), including myself. I hate to tell you, Unless you’ve applied absolutely no patches to your PS4 and downloaded absolutely no apps, you are indeed using a form of digital media. No need to be hating other gamers here.

        • Jerome T

          I don’t hate any gamers and I meant I hate digital only as in forced. Digital is fine as an option, just not a forced and only option. I buy digital from time to time myself. I just very much prefer physical media 1 millions times over digital.

          • Brad Stansell

            You see, saying it like that is much more amiable than saying “f#ck digital media” and “Digital only is for qu33rs”.

    • The Mind of Ish

      get a xboxone breh best of both worlds

  • sampson3121

    lol CANNOT!!! lol

    • ?????

      Cannot what? Get an education? Or perhaps a boyfriend?

      • sampson3121

        “The first thing you need to know about the USB Music Player in PS4 update 2.0 is that you CANNOT “copy music files from USB to the internal hard disk of the PS4“. This is unlike on the PS3 where you can store MP3 files on the hard drive.”

        found it funny that he had to us capital letters to make sure we understood that we CANNOT!!!copy music files :) he exposed how much of a bot he is lol

  • Stonerman217

    Why would we want to save music on our hard drive? Thats going to be for games, to use the space on the hard drive for music as well would just fill it up quicker

    • Brad Stansell

      While I agree it’s not the ideal use for the hard drive, that should really be up to the user. I think the ideal situation would be a streaming ability from your local computer a la (and I realize I make a lot of comparisons to it) Apple TV. If I wanna listen to “I See Fire” while playing Shadows of Mordor, I shouldn’t have to load it up on a usb stick and plug it in.

      • Stonerman217

        Fair point, and your right, streaming is what we really want.

  • Monkey D. Dragon

    sooo i say it comes out this week or next week

  • bardock5151

    That UI is ridiculously cluttered. Horrible just horrible.

    • Country Boy Lucifer

      how on earth is that more cluttered than the x1’s UI?

    • $113353191

      Stop spreading fanboy lies, ignorance, trolling, and blind hate. All of your lies and blind hatred only make you look deranged and sick to normal, sane people.,

  • nino brown

    When is this 2.0 update coming out i dont like my ps4 they cheated the buyers shit ass all the games are the same

    • Brad Stansell

      Simma down dude. Everyone’s frustrated but if you’re that annoyed with the games, there are a ton of people on Craigslist willing to trade an XBone for a PS4 or even a WiiU and vice versa. The world is your oyster!

  • TEasy83

    Just come on with the new update.

  • Jerome T

    I hope I offend some of you with this…

  • Guest

    Fun Fact:

    • gamer4life79

      Look at that triple cheeseburger

  • Guest

    Today’s Fun Fact:

  • Jerome T

    Today’s Fun Fact

  • Brad Stansell

    Hey everybody, check out the all new PS4 2.0! It’s our Special Release!

    PS4 2.0 has over 100 fabulous features! 60 minutes of Share Play! And tons of great surprises! And the best part is… you can’t have it!

    That’s right because with PS4 2.0, only Sony can use it! Only Sony can share videos on YouTube! Wow!

    It’s the greatest upgrade in the console universe! And nobody can have it! Especially Stan and Kyle!

    So keep watching for news about PS4 2.0, but don’t expect a release date any time soon ’cause remember:

    So much to do with PS4 2.0, but you can’t download it! Especially Stan and Kyle!

    • CHEF

      Hello there children!
      You see children, the upgrade is like a gift from God, he tells how the upgrade is going to be, then before you know it he only releases a portion of it, the “limitations”… so you see children it’s all a big fat lie.

  • John

    Oh yeah, “limitations”…

    When was the last time you were able to copy music from a USB stick on to a console? Never.

    #justsayin…

  • $113353191

    Big surprise, ANOTHER article swarming with mentally diseased, blind, pure evil microsoft shill human waste. They are a worthless and sick pestilence.