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Next Xbox to use Blu-Ray, combat used games

Sony’s proprietary format to be used in next console from Microsoft?

Next Xbox to use Blu Ray, combat used games

Not many details have surfaced about the rumored yet unannounced next generation Xbox.  One juicy rumor that reared its head on Kotaku suggests that the next generation from Microsoft might combat used games and piracy in its disc protection.  The company is also said to be moving from the traditional DVD format towards Sony's proprietary Blu-ray storage.

The extra disc space will certainly help out developers looking to cram content into their offerings, but the jump to next generation storage won't have the same impact as it did this generation.  While the rumors don't offer any specifics as to how Microsoft will manage the use of used games on the console, if true, this will likely be cheered by developers and publishers who've been vocal about how used games sales effect the bottom line.

This is the second set of rumors in as many days about Microsoft's next console.  Yesterday, reports emerged that outed a possibile hardware configuration for the upcoming console.  Six times more powerful than the current generation and unable to play used games, that's a powerful checklist to put on the box of whatever Microsoft decides to name this unannounced hardware.

While Microsoft has addressed these rumors currently, they didn't explicity deny them.  Microsoft says, "We're always thinking about what is next and how we can push the boundaries of technology...We believe the key to extending the lifespan of a console is not just about the hardware."  Take it for what it's worth.



By on January 25, 2012
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47 COMMENTS
  • avatar
    Heavenswarrior121
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    Blu-ray should be playstation exclusive only! If xbox 720 and ps4 have alot in common then you can harley point out the differences! Its suppose to be war between them!

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Wow, so you think Sony owns Blu-ray as a whole? Your in for a surprise my friend.

      Its inevitable.

      Just like how DVD destroyed VHS.

    • avatar
      IHATETROLLS (WHO DOESN’T)

      Sony developed blu ray with a alot of other partners but for m$ to use bluray obviously a patent is needed though it is not impossible like samsung making chips for apple products yet competing against each other for market share on the mobile side.

      imo i think bluray will be final for physical cds before digital downloads but what then if not blu ray? sutck with hd dvd? and it’s too early for full digital downloads? they either have to get bluray or create another system

  • avatar
    Paul
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    The difference will be that Alllen only has sex with playstations, that’s how you tell the difference..

    • avatar
      Allen

      Dude, you can’t have sex with a PS3 okay!? so just stop it…I tried and it just won’t work. Then my wife got all pissed that it was in bed with us. I tried doing a 3 way but that didn’t work either. The best I could do is turn it on and rub my wife’s head against it while I had her bent over on the bed. It was pretty erotic really.

      Oh and she asked for you to stop sending me invites to be in a menasha twa with you and Reality.

    • avatar
      Paul

      I think it’s cute that you call your husband Wife, we all knew you liked to bend him over the bed.

    • avatar
      Allen

      This site has really gone to $hit, a bunch of pitiful xbots all sad they chose the wrong side yet somehow they don’t know how to get out of being stuck bent over fked over by Xbox.

      It’s not my fault you continue to support the biggest piece of $hit in the world; which has absolutely no reason to even own. No games, no exclusives, no features, just a steamy pile of $hit.

    • avatar
      Paul

      What does that have to do with your husband? Are you two fighting? Do you need a hug? I’m here for you Allen.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      What about last year? Before I came? You were crapping over anyone who “Dares” do go against your “pley-stey-tion”. Ever thought about that?

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      ” No games, no exclusives, no features, just a steamy pile of $hit.”

      And you wonder why I dont argue with you. You never back up your statements. Just make them up. Even though Andrew has explained everything.

    • avatar
      Allen

      Who needs backup?

      All best xbox games on PC – True

      Xbox is the only one pay to play – True

      Xbox wont’ allow you to stream netflix without paying for gold – true

      Xbox made Halo 2 for PC Vista only (scam) – true

      Xbox won’t lower the cost of their POS console because they are money whores – true

      Xbox hasn’t given you crap for your $1.5 Billion/year subs – True

      Xbox has expensive and limited proprietary hardware – true

      Xbox controllers have no built in batteries yet cost $50 – true

      Xbox is lacking lots of “current gen” tech, like blue tooth, sleve slot, built in power supply, built in wifi (for 5 years) no blu ray an no browser – true

      No xbox exclusive content, even though you pay for online play and no one else in the world does – true

      Every god damn thing is against Xbox yet blind supporters just keep with them. There is no damn reason. don’t give me this better online $hit because the only difference is cross game chat and party chat. Not that big of a deal at all.

      God Xbox sucks so damn bad, you just choose not to admit it. That’s what is so fking pathetic.

      Now tell me what the fk is wrong about any of that and tell me why the fk I need backup for something that is so damn obvious that it bitch slaps you in the face. `

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      I see my point still stands.

  • avatar
    Andrew
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    My guess would be some sort of HD DVD usage for it’s game discs.

  • avatar
    Raven
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    Only way I can see dealing with the used market is with online passes, I just can’t see how else they could prevent it any other way.

    These rumors are starting to get ridiculous now.

    • avatar
      RedRing

      One way they could to it would be to have a unique key on every disc, and have the console check a server to validate the key every time the game is played.

  • avatar
    Andrew
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    All I want out the of Xbox 720 is Multitasking (Again), ability to support more people in online games hopefully 64 player online games, and better graphics and I’ll be content.

  • avatar
    Bacon
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    If Microsoft bans used games then ps4 will clearly dominate, what will be your excuse 360 fanboys for getting a ps4 n not a 720?

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Its bad to take rumors too seriously.

    • avatar
      Tuck

      Well I’m guessing both systems would do this, but I doubt this rumor will be true and I hope not.

      But if Xbox was the only one, developers would love them, and Xbox would easily become the preferred system to build games for.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Its pretty risky.

      Yeah sure, Devs would love the 720 because of this.

      But what will the gamers say?

      1) Will they flock to Xbox 720 because Devs prefer it?

      2) Or will they leave Xbox 720 because gamers cant play “Used” or “Second hand” games.

      If I were to choose. Despite how much I love the Xbox brand. Ill choose 2.

    • avatar
      Raven

      I have serious concerns about Sony’s future with the majority of their divisions are failing, TV, Phone, etc. How much can Sony afford to offer in the future? Can they afford their developers next gen or will they be selling off like they did with their Spiderman rights recently?

      Heck can they support free online again when the company has been losing billions every year.

    • avatar
      Tuck

      I agree with you Cool Dude, trying to spin a positive on this, but I’m not enough of a fanboy to support xbox if they have this and PS4 doesn’t.

  • avatar
    Cool dude
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    All im wanting is for one of the consoles (PS4 or Xbox 720) to have backwards compatibility.

    Then im in on either camps.

  • avatar
    Bacon
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    Microsoft and Activision are….

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      .. are what?

    • avatar
      Raven

      the devil?

      Winners?

    • avatar
      IHATETROLLS (WHO DOESN’T)

      for microsoft no, they lost to apple, for activision, they had to “merge” with blizzards to become “the biggest video game publisher” so for a fact both are multi billion dollar companies

  • avatar
    dont feed the trolls
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    Blu ray is not and will not be an exclusive to anything because sony does not own it

  • avatar
    Pete
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    Yup, halo and gears, that’s it, now you can go back to playing Saints Row 3 after you pre-order Mass Effect 3 and try not to worry about who funded those IPs you bought instead the recent Ratchet, Resistance, or Socom.

  • avatar
    Pete
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    Thanks, the point is most sony fans would by an old exclusive of xbox’s over a sony exclusive. So whatever few exclusives MS has left, we all know Sony Fans would rather have them. Proof is in the sales, all these Sony lists are pointless if they’re not bought.

  • avatar
    chewBACCAbeetLE
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    But not everybody buys exclusives. It’s no shocker that many PS3?360 owners only have the system for major titles such as Call of Duty and Battlefield. Don’t get me wrong, exclusives can be and are wonderful games, but they aren’t the deciding factor for most people on whether they want a Playstation or an Xbox. For me, I chose an Xbox because it was very similar to the Gamecube controller which I was accustomed to, not because of Halo or Gears. of course a Playstation would have been a better decision financially because of its free online, but I wanted something I knew I could handle, not something I’d hardly had experience with. Bottom line is that with today’s generation, it isn’t really exclusives that determine what kids buy, it’s overall price or familiarity.

  • avatar
    RedRing
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    I would personally welcome the online pass concept if they would then make DLC free. I can see that the used market is really eating in to their later sales, and they need to get additional revenue from DLC. It would then seem to be fair to make “non paying” consumers of used games pay for online, and to then give their “paying” customers free DLC for the life of the product. The idea being, that once you pay for online one way or another, you get the entire experience.

    This is actually better for everyone, since everyone would be guaranteed to have the same maps etc. From my perspective, they should also reduce the initial cost of the game to account for the fact that you can’t sell it for as much.

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    Dutch
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    Although they are just rumours at the moment if Microsoft did both of these things it would grant Sony so so so much more money. Sony being one of the majority share holders in Blu-Ray technology would receive money for each Blu-Ray put into each new xbox (equalling millions of dollars) and adding the no used games ruling on their xbox’s would cause many people to shift to the PS4 and Wii U and in turn grant their rivals more and more money. Coming from Microsoft it doesn’t seem like their kind of move, with them being money grubbing whores and all.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Lol, that “Money-whore” thing. You do understand that Nintendo, Sony and MS are all in the same level of “Greediness”.

      Anyway. Well, Blu-ray > DVD/HDDVD.

      Bluray is the future. Its unavoidable.

  • avatar
    Cool dude
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    Ohh hi there fake Paul :)

  • avatar
    IHATEHIPSTERS
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    MS won’t use blue ray because they would have to give royalties to sony if they did. I personally hope they use sd cards but they will probably just make their own format

  • avatar
    That Guy
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    theyre gonna use another physical medium instead of admitting they over price their hard drives and sell a 1TB at $50 like it is for pc? fail.

  • avatar
    Tuck
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    Whatever the royalties are, I’m sure they’re cheaper than developing a new format.

    Plus sony would probably want to further it’s movie sales, so though they’re in competition its about money. So I can’t see sony stopping ms, that’s if they can.

  • avatar
    njb
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    Blu-Ray is the obvious and most conveniant format for MS to use.

    But then they will have to use better hardware and decent parts to make the console so it will cost them more money to produce a console and they wont make an absolute K1lling of a profit on each console sold.

    And they want to completely kill off the Used game market. Why? its just silly. I buy new games when their dirt cheap, wait a month or 2 at the most unless its a COD game.

    But it comes down to MS, will they use blu-ray and pay a small fee or pay big money to develop a completely new format. Blu-ray is the future, you cant deny it. Unless they go down the Download route but then you need a big HDD and a bloody quick internet connection. I dont like downloading an 8gb game yet alone a 50+gb game.

    And @Raven, How are Sony failing? They do make money considering they pretty much have influence in all forms of Media. Their TV’s are always at a high standard and the Xperia and erricson phones are amazing. Not to mention they have a Snoy music label, multiple film studios and 20+ ingame studios. And considering they partly developed every major Disc based format to date how can they not be making money.

    They obvioisly spent a lot on the PS3 but its made PS4 easier and cheaper in the long run because they know what works and what can be done with a console. PS3 had mad development costs buts its payed off.

    • avatar
      Raven

      Agree, Sony TV’s, phones, etc are good quality, but from what I read those divisions are hurting, I believe their Gaming division is the only one that’s profitable now, which is good for PS4 development.

      Their Movie division posted a small profit also, but that was only due to them selling off spider-man for around $300 million or else that would have been a huge lost.

      Value of Sony in 2000, around 100 billion, 2011, around 18 billion.

      So I do think there is some concern about Sony being able to afford features in the future.

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      @Raven

      Yeah, I saw that. Sony is in bad financial times now.

  • avatar
    jake
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    i whant sex with caption price and soap

  • avatar
    Heavenswarrior121
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    ^^^look who have no life but cool dude i never said sony owned blu-ray im sayen ms shouldnt be allowed to use blu/-ray thats all,will see what happens

    • avatar
      Cool dude

      Sony could buy exclusivity rights to Blu-ray, but that would be the equivalent its own company anyway. Its like getting gas money from selling your car :-P. Pointless.

  • avatar
    reality
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    Allen is back to the copy/paste comments again. What a waste of space.

  • avatar
    SKIN503
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    Rumor or not, even exersising the thought, SCREAMS Microsoft has no new INNOVATION!

  • avatar
    DALEW676
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    the only thing XBOX really had going for it was Halo. if Halo didnt exist then Xbox 360 wouldnt really be here. Sony has been around for a long time so they had the leverage on the Core gamers but Xbox came in and made the faster of three new gen consoles (hence almost a year ahead of PS3 and Wii). thats what sold not that the PS3 isnt a good system it was late to the game. just like how Micrososft was late to the New Mobile/Tablet platform. everyone bashed Android becuase it wasnt doing so hot at first against apple. now look at it with all its fragmentation its the second best OS on mobile devices in the US. so think about how you bash the PS3. if you take it for its hardware it spanks the Xbox 360 (except for the GPU). which still fathems my brain why they didnt think about a 512 GDDR3 onboard model. but i in turn will still love my PS3 over the Xbox. i had the Xbox first becuase it was $250 cheaper than the PS3 when the PS3 came out. now that they are not much different in price. i would go PS3. but since everyone in there mother owns an Xbox and your toilet even owns one. you might want an xbox so you can play with the toilet with its “Potty Mouth” but just so you know he doesnt play worth SH*!.