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Xbox One predicted to have made up ground on PS4 in August sales, Wii U sales jump

| September 8, 2014

Xbox One predicted to have made up ground on PS4 in August sales, Wii U sales jump News  Xbox One WIIU PS4

Michael Pachter has made new estimates for console sales for the month of August which has the Xbox One gaining ground on PS4, and the Wii U jumping significantly on the back of Mario Kart 8. Pachter’s latest research notes indicate that the three consoles sold nearly 400,000 total.

According to the notes, the Wii U sales doubled year over year to 65,000, this mostly attributable to the success of Mario Kart 8. Also according to Pachter, PS4 sales dipped on a month over month basis down to 175,000, while Xbox One sales jumped 14% to 150,000.

Pachter believes that the $399 price point for a Kinect-less Xbox One, as well as the Madden bundles were the catalysts for the improvement.

These numbers are Pachter’s estimates and not the official NPD data which is due out later this month. Recently, Xbox exec Aaron Greenberg spoke about the Xbox One sales performance in the summer, calling it a slow season via Twitter.

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  • Facts First

    I think its only a matter of time where people realize that there isn’t a single thing better about the ps4 over the xbox one other than lying sony executaves that are good at getting people to buy. Not one thing.

    • Nettrick Nowan

      How do you account for the differences in graphics so far?

      • Infinitesimal.

        • DrumStickNinja

          Larger than between 360 and PS3.

          • Will

            . . . which doesn’t necessarily account for much, even if true.

          • Nope. But that was also infinitesimal. Real gamers play games, not count pixels. Get a PC if you are that obsessed with eye candy or get a life.

          • $113353191

            Some gamers want a console, not a PC, and they want the best performance for their money on multiplatform games. That means PS4, sorry.

            10 million to 5 and the gap is growing wider, not smaller.

          • 111AlaN111

            It’s the opposite.

        • sampson3121

          as long as these dev companies use the words “going for parity” u won’t see much of a difference…we have to suffer i guess, thank god for exclusives.

          • Will

            This is a myth.

            Sony has yet to release an exclusive that shows a clear power difference.

          • sampson3121

            yes they have, infamous second son, and if you say no then ur either full of shit or haven’t played it. the particle system in that game would make the x1 explode.
            want to see what next gen looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOVt3TLciIM

          • Will

            Infamous looks good, to be sure, but the abhorrent dips in its unlocked framerate reveal the limitations of the PS4.

            “the particle system in that game would make the x1 explode.”

            Source?

            It’s a good-looking game, but nothing clearly above and beyond XOne. The main character has 60k polys, vs. Ryse up to 85k. The distances in the game are filled in with low res textures and outlines.

            Infamous is a next gen game, for sure.

            But so is this. . .

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX7r61fyltc

          • $113353191

            Infamous runs at 35 fps average, First Light runs at 40 fps average. It runs above 30 fps on average.

            Ryse is 900p, 25 fps average corridor brawler and mostly pre-rendered movie cutscenes, Infamous is 1080p, 35 fps average open world with advanced particle physics and mostly realtime cutscenes.

            Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +540 GFlops (40% greater) or more, +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support (volatile bit and onion+ gpu cache bypass bus), better performing CPU, faster unified memory, and less OS overhead.

            Infamous uses PS4’s superior GPGPU support for particle physics.

          • Will

            Except that the greatest factor that determines image quality is not resolution, especially at higher resolutions, and especially considering the final output is upscaled to 1080p anyway.

            The technical differences you expressed are just not dramatic enough to really show. Many people will tell you, looking at the two games side by side, that Ryse looks better. There are technical differences in favor of Ryse, as well. 85k polys per character vs 60k polys will likely be more noticeable than 900p upscaled to 1080p vs 1080p.

            It’s the same story with the specs. Having six more compute units just doesn’t translate into a fixed ratio of more power, especially since the two architectures are based on the same APU. There’s a point where having more compute units will saturate the capability of the whole system. Having the extra six gives a slight advantage, but nowhere near the direct-ratio math that less informed people attribute to it.

            FLOPS have NEVER been very telling or accurate as to a console’s gaming performance. This is what Sony’s claim of the PS3 was based on. Sony claimed double the FLOPS of the 360, yet 360 has a stronger GPU and simpler coding access. Thus, the games (the point of a console) generally edged slightly in 360’s favor.

            All this has been analyzed extensively by people more knowledgeable than yourself on such matters. What ends up happening, though, is Sony enthusiasts tend to dismiss such technical reports, chalking up to their simple mathematical understanding of technical specifications that NEVER have a direct correlation to actual real-world performance. Yet, technical specs are what Sony uses to advertise the power of its console.

            I suspect you don’t really get a lot of the specs you methodically advertise for Sony. How exactly is PS4’s GPGPU support superior?

          • GK15

            Ryse won best real time graphics. I also know several ppl that own both and say Ryse looks better. Not saying infamous looks bad (I’ve played it and it looks good), it just doesn’t demonstrate a big power difference between the two.

          • $113353191

            We don’t know who actually entered the 41st Siggraph Computer Animation Festival contest. It’s impossible to tell what Ryse “won over”. The award is for Ryse, not “Ryse on Xbox One”. It’s a near certainty that they applied to the contest using footage from the upcoming PC version running at 4k resolution and ultra settings.

            The award states “Ryse is an eight hour game with an additional 110-minutes of linear storytelling content. The submission shows gameplay and cutscenes, both utilize the same assets and can be rendered in real-time.” Despite claiming the gameplay and cutscenes use the same assets, the cutscenes are almost all pre-rendered movies at least in the Xbox version.

            In other words, this award is more about an unleashed PC version of Ryse than the Xbox version running at 900p and 25 FPS average with lower visual quality settings.

            PS4 is the more powerful console, thus it has the potential for more computationally intensive visual calculations, that will generally be perceived as better by most. Ryse would obviously run better on PS4.

            Ryse is 900p, 25 fps average corridor brawler and mostly pre-rendered movie cutscenes, Infamous is 1080p, 35 fps average open world with advanced particle physics and mostly realtime cutscenes.

          • sampson3121

            i was talking about the PARTICLE system, not just the graphics…..and infamous is way better in graphics also, bigger world with more detail along with the particle effects? simply amazing!!! and let’s not forget the lighting, just jaw dropping. it’s the kinda game where you stop and just look at how beautiful the graphics, particles and lighting. the rain! click the picture and see the little droplets, this is all in game and is happening all around you while you’re fighting…simply amazing!

          • GK15

            Ryse is also jaw droppingly gorgeous. So much so, that it won an award for it’s graphics on XB1. Beating out all other games including infamous. I’m not saying that infamous looks bad, but if you’re trying to show a game that showcases a big onscreen power difference, I don’t think infamous vs Ryse is a good. Have you played Ryse? It’s a beautiful game AND it came out at launch. A few more months of dev time could have made it even better.

            As far as particle effects, Sunset OD isn’t out yet but you can see lots of footage that is chalk full of explosions, particle effects and tons of things going on onscreen as well.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Corridor enviroments, motion blur, fog, five enemies on screen per time and CryEngine. Thank them for bailing out the Xbone’s gimped hardware.

          • ?????

            Look, another jealous PS fanboy that he didn’t get Ryse and had better graphics than any other PS game!

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Why in the f*ck would I be jealous about Ryse, the worst launch “game” of eighth gen?

            Such a shame Infamous and Drive Club looks better too. :o)

          • ?????

            Why would I be jealous of your shitty indies?

            Such a shame two overhyped games don’t have graphics like Ryse.

            Get mental help, it’s not healthy to hate on pieces of plastic.
            You are lying, evil, mentally ill, feece flinging human fanboy waste.

          • Guest

            Let me guess, Tony right?

            Haha you might hide your name but you’re still the same hypocrite, stupid fanboy. Too bad your “education” (that you’re so proud of) didn’t teach you manners.

          • ?????

            Who is Tony? Jumping to conclusions are we?
            Sorry I actually GOT an education.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Should be jealous of us actually getting AAAs while you wait for B-tier Sunset Overdrive to show up.

            Such a shame Drive Club and Infamous destroy Wryte-Off: Son of Bitch.

            It’s spelt feces too, you dumb f*ck.

          • ?????

            You call me the dumbfuck?

            “Should be jealous of us actually getting AAAs while you wait for B-tier Sunset Overdrive to show up.”
            Like the fuck what? LBP3? That’s it. Sorry, but I’ll be playing some KI2, FH2, Project spark, SO, Halo:MC collection, scalebound, ori, and more.
            Sunset Overdrive got great reviews, you never played it, so who are you to judge?
            You also never played Ryse, you just blindly hate on it sine its not on your system.
            You should be jealous of our games AND our intelligence you robo-fuckazoid piece of shit.
            Have a nice day! No need to argue with delusional children like you!

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Finished an unfinished racing game, a cross-gen racer, Spark is already released, SO is a Dead Rising clone (and not even out yet, so it doesn’t have “reviews”), Ori is on the 360 and Scalebound isn’t out for two years. That’s your excuse for being an Xbot? The Wii U and PS4 destroys your shit console.

            I played Ryse at an Xbone, it was straight garbage. Deal with it.

          • ?????

            LMFAO you didn’t play any of those games, too butthurt they’re Microsoft’s! Forza will do better than Driveclub and Gran., and yes, all these are exclusive to Microsoft, meaning not on Nintendo or PS.
            Watch One outsell Wii U in a year, and is it shit? Nope, you just blindly hate on it like an imbecile.
            Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me. Whats even sadder is you upvote yourself with dead accounts LMFAO

          • Revolver Ocelot

            I sure have. Apart from the usual Xbot contingent, no one really cares about FH2.

            Wii U is far better than the Shitbox Done. Say Xbone.

          • ?????

            “Apart from the usual Xbot contingent, no one really cares about FH2.”
            I can say the same thing about Driveclub or Gran Turismo
            “Wii U is far better than the Shitbox Done.”
            Wii U is drastically underpowered if you compare it to the One or PS4. Do your research.
            Just more blind hate LMFAO.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Gran Turismo and the mainline Forza series pushes units to be sure, but the smaller franchises like Need for Speed doesn’t, really. Arcade racers are quite a niche genre.

            At this point the Wii U is a stronger purchase than the Xbone TBH.

          • ?????

            I’m pretty sure this will change. Wii U is a great system, but it is underpowered. Xbox One will sell greatly from MC collection with some others, and Wii U will sell some units due to SSB4.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Whoops! Double post cos my Internet cut out.

          • Will

            Ooh. That really just sums up the experience.

            Too bad people seem to think Ryse looks better than Second Son.

          • sampson3121

            yes i played ryse and i can tell you, there is nothing much to it, so yes it looks good because they didn’t have a all the particles and the background is all pasted, meaning you can’t go there…game is to simple, just look at the picture i just posted, this is as someone is actually playing, the amount of detail fucking kills ryse…but please tell me about the awards. i just don’t understand why xbots don’t get that the ps4 is just a more powerful machine, everyone knows it so i’m done with this conversation. have a good life.

          • GK15

            Well you got to say your final piece, so I’ll say mine. I’ve got no problem admitting that the PS4 has a better GPU. The thing is, there are many moving parts to a console and I’ve yet to see any onscreen difference that would make me want to own a PS4 over an XB1. Even those early launch games with the res differences aren’t a big deal to me. And you obviously don’t remember early PS3 games being a big pain for developers.

            You can call me an Xbot if you want, but that makes you either a legacy PS fanboy (pony or bronie if you will), or you bought into these big power differences and you’re desperately trying to justify your purchase. I’m sorry lol, but I’ve played Infamous as well and while looking good, it certainly doesn’t look better than Ryse whatever excuse you might use.

            You guys try to make it sound like the power difference between XB1 and PS4 is like that of the Wii U, lmao! Sorry bro, but that just ain’t the case. You’ll see multi plats close enough to parity all Gen, just like last time. Single digit fps differences and 900p vs 1080p, which ain’t a big deal.

            PS4 is a bit more powerful, but it ain’t a big deal at all. Both consoles will have beautiful looking and fun games all Gen long. I choose to game on XB1 because I think it’s a better overall console for me. Peace

          • ?????

            He never replied.
            You sir won the argument.

          • $113353191

            Sony’s ICE team, Naughty Dog, and Santa Monica Studios will fully utilize PS4’s stronger hardware, so it will stay ahead in graphics performance.

            Nobody cares about your delusional fanboy opinion on what constitutes “a clear power difference”.

          • Will

            :D

            Speaking for everybody? Did I touch a nerve?

            Does it bother you that games just don’t show a significant power advantage?

          • Alana

            How can you see the difference in performance in a game which isn’t playable on both consoles?

        • Nettrick Nowan

          Not if you have decent eyesight and an up to date large screen TV. If you honestly feel the difference is “infinitesimal,” for one, I’d like to know if you own both and, two, the specs of the TV/monitor you play on.

          • Will

            Yet another “>>I<< can tell the difference! Don't know what YOUR problem is!" personality. No. You couldn't tell the difference, either.

        • GK15

          I agree, the difference between multiplats is not a big deal at all. Games look and play great on Xbox One.

          Especially once you get to like 900p upscaled vs native 1080p. I just can’t spot a difference at all. Especially from my couch.

          Early dev kits were also a problem on XB1 and newer ones have helped games recently. At this point I think there’s only like 5 games that are 720p on XB1 and almost everything else is 900p upscaled or 1080p native with two games that I can think of being the weird 792p.

          But to be honest, even the 720p games look really good, so I don’t dismiss games just because of resolution. Many other factors that go into making a game look and play great

        • $113353191

          It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger
          hardware and buying PS4s anyway. Sorry. Consumers decide what’s
          important and they disagree with you 2:1.

          • Alana

            While I admit I’m no expert on computers (I only play them), even I know that there’s a huge difference in pre-rendered and real-time graphics. If the CPU is having to make a billion calculations in deciding what to put on the screen, of course it’s going to be more load-intensive than a pre-rendered sequence which only has to translate its image into pixels.

            So it’s impossible to compare performance unless (1) You’re looking at the same game in the same scene on both consoles simultaneously (where nothing has been changed under the hood), or (2) You can see the processor index of exactly what threads are running under the hood.

            However, I’ve yet to read an interview with a single multi-plat developer who says the xBox is more powerful.

      • GK15

        Not a big deal

        • $113353191

          It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger
          hardware and buying PS4s anyway. Sorry. Consumers decide what’s
          important and they disagree with you 2:1.

      • Mike Jovanovic

        I have both – and in some cases I have the same game on both systems. One of the dupes that I have is Metro Redux, I know that the Xbox One version is supposed to be 900p and the PS4 version is 1080p – I’ve played on both and if there is a difference, I’m not seeing it.

        Screenshots don’t do justice to what a game looks like when playing it. I’m sure if I did a screenshot I could find a difference but really, when I’m playing a game, things are just moving around and the little bit of difference is lost.

        Just get the system you want (or get both) and don’t worry about it.

    • Allen

      (1) More powerful
      (2) More exclusives and none of which are on PC from the Army of Sony Studios.
      (3) Free exclusive content in tons of multi platform games.
      (4) More and better games with subscription service.
      (5) Less expensive subscription service, less expensive and fewer accessories.
      (6) History of supporting platforms all generation and then some.
      (7) History of great customer support.
      (8) Gamer inspired exclusive features like Virtual Couch & Friend Spectate/Take over mode.

      Just replying to troll

      • Rayban99

        0 next gen game with subscription serveice. Less AAA exculsives, Less apps, dying company, history of trying to kill competition for consumers money and having it blow up in their face ( see betamax and the celll processor).

        Predicted odds of Sony seeking bankruptcy protection within 3 year 78% and Microsoft less than 1%. Sony stock has been downgraded to a junk bond because they lie to investors and don’t pay back their loans.

        Nintendo is a Large Company than Sony at this point.

        • Allen

          You are on crack if you think xbox has more AAA exclusives. Obviously you are not looking at any announced games.

          You do realize that Microsoft held onto money and new IP ideas for xbone right? Hence the drought of almost no exclusives the last 5 years in a row on 360.

          God I swear xbots are the biggest butt hurt sons of bitches in the world. Blind, ignorant sheep spewing lies and disinformation everywhere they go.

          • bardock5151

            Sony fanboys are still upset after having their favourite piece of plastic beaten and flogged last gen and the gen before despite Sony promising the most powerful and life like graphics ever seen, yet caught in lies everytime.

          • lol

            Maybe you’re just stuck in 2007.
            Last time I checked the PS3 was in front despite launching more than 1 year later.

            btw it’s funny seeing you talk about “caught in lies everytime” :)

          • Will

            You’d think, being launched over a year later, that the PS3 would actually have greater performance than the 360. Although according to Sony’s assurances, the PS3 was supposedly “twice” as powerful as the 360, the real-world performance of the two consoles is nearly identical, with the 360 generally showing a slight edge.

            Yes, Sony did, in fact, promise a significant power difference that fell flat. They did it with the PS2 as well.

          • $113353191

            PS3 was more powerful than 360. Sony said some PR BS about PS3 power,
            now MS is doing it with the Xbox.

            Sony
            has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have
            much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so
            well.

            MS and Mattrick, Hyrb, Penello, Greenberg, Medhi, Spencer,
            etc. have been making the arrogant anti-consumer PR blunders, spin,
            lies, and deceptive BS this gen, not Sony.

          • Will

            “PS3 was more powerful than 360.”

            Its CPU is technically more powerful. Not its GPU. Most games showed the edge in 360’s direction.

            “Sony has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have
            much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so
            well.”

            Partially true. I think it had to do more with Microsoft’s bad PR than Sony’s good PR, though.

          • bardock5151

            No lies, a simple search will net you every source needed for my posts. Your screen name doesn’t lend much weight to your words either. LOL

          • $113353191

            Big surprise, another article swarming with rabid shills screaming lies and hatred about Sony and PS4.

          • lol

            Strange. I couldn’t find any sites saying how sony’s consoles were “beaten and flogged last gen and the gen before”. Is it possible you saw it in a dream or something?

            ha ha And what does a screen name has to do with my comment, your lies or anything else?

          • ?????

            Sales don’t matter. LOL.

          • XbotMK1

            And how did Sony lie? The PS3 put out better visuals than the 360 or Wii in my opinion. Ever play Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Beyond 2 Souls, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, and Killzone 2? So how is promising your customers that you will strive for the best lifelike graphics a lie? Did Sony not strive for that?

            Sony was aiming for great graphics with the PS3? WOW Who would’ve thought that a game console maker would strive for great graphics!!! Simply mindblowing. LMAO

          • bardock5151

            The exclusives are debatable through the fact that each slightly comparable game has completely different art styles and level design(the bigger you go the less you get). Forza and GT are the only two that can really be compared and even then the ps3 still doesn’t match up.
            Every multiplatform game perform not marginally better like the ps4/X1 at the moment but far better on 360 over PS3. Sony has always marketed their games and hardware with tech demo’s(not achievable in real games) or cgi trailers(implying in game footage). Hows that toy story graphics by the way.

          • $113353191

            Sony never claimed anything about “toy story graphics”. You are lying and malicious.

            Apparently PS4’s success is causing microsoft shills to have meltdowns and spread lies and hatred. Sad.

            PS3 was slightly more powerful than 360 when coded for properly. See Uncharted 3, God of War 3, and The Last of Us.

          • $113353191

            PS3 was more powerful than 360. Sony said some PR BS about PS3 power, now MS is doing it with the Xbox. But keep flinging fanboy feces like a rabid animal, that’s all you can do in the face of reality.

            Sony has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so well.

            MS and Mattrick, Hyrb, Penello, Greenberg, Medhi, Spencer, etc. have been making the arrogant anti-consumer PR blunders, spin, lies, and deceptive BS this gen, not Sony.

            Right now PS4 ~10 million, Wii U ~7 million, Xbox One ~5 million sold to consumers.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Wow you are an idiot if you think xbox did anything to the PS2 but it’s ok and PS3 over took the 360 in sales about a year ago although not impressively.

          • You could’ve left the homophobia at home, bigot. Geezus. Also, get an abacus. Anyone with an elementary education can tally up the AAA exclusive list right now and see that Xbox One is dominating PS4.

          • Fenrir Posorski

            Uhm… how did you get homophobia out of that? The best I could find was “Butt hurt” a term of debatable and dubious origin, which is used not as a homophobic slur, but as a term basically meaning “Thin skinned”

          • The fact that you don’t understand what the egregiously offensive word “butthurt” means is the problem: don’t use words that you don’t understand. It’s not of “dubious origin” and it doesn’t mean “thin-skinned”. It refers to one man anally raping another man as a form of domination. Not only does it trivialize rape, but it simultaneously serves to propagate stereotypical imagery about gay men. It’s a despicable word and anyone who uses it is an ignoramus or a bigot. Don’t be either.

          • pbizkit

            You call him out about his homophobic statement and use Geezus, if you want people to be polite and PC…. Do so

          • There is nothing homophobic about the word geezuz, which isn’t a word at all. Completely incomparable. Next.

          • pbizkit

            I’m not saying it’s homophobic… But with a large part of the world being people who worship a man named Jesus.. And to use his name in any other meaning is considered blasphemy you would think someone insulted by the term butthurt would take others into consideration by not using their religion as a joke. But maybe we have come to a point where it is more insulting to make fun of homosexuality than religion. (side note: I am not a Christian nor do I follow any other religion.. Just think if you are gonna try and clean up this chat maybe you could be more considerate first.)

          • CJ

            So, it is just a stereotype that gay men like a dingus in the area where feces is born?

          • Grow up, bigot.

          • CJ

            You grow up, my friend. I called it like it is. I made no judgements. If that bothers you, then you could stand to take your own advice.

          • Fenrir Posorski

            Ha ha ha ha… no. It is agreed to be a reference to spanking. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/butthurt

          • No, it’s not, but even if it were, it’s a stupid thing to say.

          • Fenrir Posorski

            Knowyoureme’s JOB is to find the origin of these things, it is what they DO. Please, provide a counter source if you wish to refute me, instead of denial and a failed attempt to back out.

          • $113353191

            http://www.listwar.com

            PS4 has many great games that gamers love. That’s why it’s 10+ million in sales and growing. Sony’s large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.

            According to Listwar PS4 has 113 games released right now, 76 upcoming retail games, and many more digital download games.

            PS4/Sony exclusives Jun-Dec: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Guilty Gear Xrd, Singstar, and lots of indies (Resogun DLC, Counterspy, Hohokum, Velocity 2X, etc.).

            PS4/Sony exclusives 2015 (announced): Bloodborne, The Order, Ratchet & Clank Remastered, Uncharted 4, Let It Die, Deep Down, and lots of indies.

            PS4 has 35+ AAA games from July to December 2014. Most of those are multiplatform but there’s no shortage of AAA games for PS4 owners.

            PS4 games rated 73+ on Metacritic not on XB1: Final Fantasy XIV, Resogun, Transistor, MLB 14, Injustice, Trine 2: Complete Story, TowerFall Ascension, Infamous 2nd Son, Don’t Starve, flower, War Thunder, DC Universe Online, Dead Nation, Dynasty Warriors 8, MotoGP 14, Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee, TLOU Remastered, The Swapper, ZEN Pinball 2, Star Wars Pinball, The Pinball Arcade, Pure Pool, Fez, Rogue Legacy, Sound Shapes, Sportsfriends, PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate, SteamWorld Dig, Awesomenauts Assemble, Titan Attacks, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Escape Plan, Outlast: Whistleblower, Hohokum, Velocity 2X.

            1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc.

            Sony’s largest 1st party studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, and Santa Monica are working on unrevealed AAA games. Expect big 1st party AAA reveals in the future. Sony’s 1st parties are well funded and the games division is making a profit.

            Sony showed the following games at Gamescom 2014:

            Sony exclusives: The Tomorrow Children, Until Dawn, Tearaway Unfolded, Alienation, WiLD, Rime, DriveClub, The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, LittleBigPlanet 3

            Timed console exclusives: Dreamfall Chapters, HellBlade, The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter, Volume, HollowPoint, Runemaster, Nom Nom Galaxy, Pix the Cat, Papers Please, In Space We Brawl, Ether One, Qube 2, Snow

            Multiplatform games: Silent Hills (P.T. playable teaser), FarCry 4, Destiny, Shadow Of Mordor

            Sony announced a ton of new Japanese games for PS4 at TGS 2014.

            PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

          • Thank you for that press release…

            Xbox One has more AAA exclusives now than PS4. Count again, and this time leave off the multiplatform indies.

          • ?????

            More in 2014.
            So many dumb and butthurt PS fanboys.

          • Allen

            Duh, I’m an asshole. PS sucks like Allen, fuckery fuck a doodle doo. Xbox rules!

          • Allen

            Duh, I suck! PS and its fans suck! box rules! Let me suck your dicks!

        • sublimetalmsg

          Less triple AAA exclusives? Lmao ?. Sony always had more exclusives. You can google last Gen, Ps3 almost double exclusives

          • Will

            I believe he was referring to the PS4, not the PS3.

            The PS4 has less AAA exclusives. That fact doesn’t have as much sway for me as does the fact that, by my estimation, XOne’s exclusives are far and away superior to PS4’s offerings right now.

          • sampson3121

            i believe he said sony, not ps4.

          • Will

            :D . . . rrright. But since he was replying to another comment that was referring directly to PS4 vs XOne, saying that “Sony” has more exclusives is not relevant.

          • pbizkit

            What exclusive is so good? I bought an Xbox and didn’t buy a game with it. I’m playing crimson dragon because none of the games are worth 60 bucks. And I’m not trying to fuel any war.. I’m asking, I don’t want 6v6 Titanfall.. And I’m not a racer kind of guy.

          • Will

            Killer Instinct, Forza, and Titanfall are all excellent games, IMO. I think Ryse is cool, as well.

          • pbizkit

            Titanfall is a no go. Love infinity ward/respawn.. But 6v6 just makes me cringe. I haven’t done a racer since cruising usa…. Might try killer instinct or ryse I guess. Thanks.

          • pbizkit

            On my ps4 I play killzone and infamous as far as exclusives.. Gonna pick up last of us eventually since I missed it on ps3.

          • sampson3121

            really doesn’t matter if he was responding to someone else, he clearly is referring to sony not having exclusives, and we all know that both ps4 and x1 don’t have many cause they were just released not long ago.

          • Will

            Wow. In case you care, when you’re cocky about being wrong, you lose credibility.

            “he clearly is referring to sony not having exclusives”

            I’ll clarify again for you. He was “clearly” comparing XOne to PS4. This is the entire premise of this discussion.

          • sublimetalmsg

            Idk I guess to each his own. Ryse to me looked good but didn’t play as well. Forza eh. Titan fall is ok though I haven’t invested much time in it. Crimsen dragon is meh. Dead rising is fun plays good to. Yeah I do have a xbone. Ps4 infamous was a great play but does lack repayable content after 2 play throughs on hard. Killzone doesn’t sit well it didn’t capture my attention. Haven’t played knack and I can’t count tlou remake but will say it was good. You may be right but both line ups are dismal when I really think about it. In the long run I suspect Sony to have a large amount of exclusives that will be enjoyable. As well as Xbox. As to who will have the best is impossible to speculate both do high quality AAA. As for most I still say Sony will end up with a much bigger exclusive list in a few years

          • pbizkit

            I dislike any comment that puts one over the other.. I owned ps3 and 360.. Played my ps3 more because I got hooked on dcuo.. But played my fair share of xbox..

            I refused to get the one till they dropped the kinect. But I am stoked to get haloMCC even tho I have multiple copies of 1-3 and one copy of 4 already on 360.

            I am excited for both lineups to grow because I will be buying any game I see fit regardless of what system it’s on and what friends will have each game will decide where I play my multiplats.

            This my system is greater for X reason is dumb.. Games will come out on each system that will be envied by the other system. The ONLY way to win is to have your ps4 and xbox one on their respective inputs on your tv.

          • sublimetalmsg

            Agreed

          • lol

            Superiority is subjective. So that point doesn’t matter.

            PS4 has less AAA exclusives? haha
            Can you compare 2 lists?

          • Will

            STILL arguing this point?

            Alright, let’s do it together.

            Show me the lists.

          • pbizkit
          • Will

            Okay, so I count around 7 for PS4 (unless titles like Putty Squad and Air Conflicts Vietnam count as AAA?) and around 9 for XOne.

            I can see this turning into a bicker over which games are and aren’t AAA. Ah well. Feel free to bicker.

            For me, though, it’s more my esteem of the games, as opposed to the number.

            PS4 sure has a lot more Indie titles.

          • pbizkit

            Oh yessir I agree throwing out the exclusives like Putty Squads and Air Conflicts Vietnam.. however all those kinect games come out as well.. Making it about even in my book on AAA titles. I wish not to bicker but everyone chanting how Xbox One has more is non-sense.. And yea PS4 has a ton of indies which is great because while you get to play Forza for a weekend, I get to download on average 3 indies for free a month and keep them. And I mostly posted this because I saw someone posted it somewhere and felt like with all the crying back and forth that people should see it.

          • Will

            Fair enough. Throw ’em out; I’m just not that partial to the status. Although, to really be fair, some of those Kinect games really are blockbusters, or at least have been in the past, so would probably “technically” qualify as AAA. I couldn’t care less. It’s about each game for me.

            I’ll be honest; I can play Forza, Titanfall, KI, Watch Dogs, Tomb Raider, and I get two free Indie games a month that I get to keep as well. I’m thinking about doing the EA Access deal, which lets me play, I believe, four, at the moment, AAA EA titles. I think the two platforms are definitely competitive. It’s all about the games, in my book.

          • pbizkit

            In the sense that they spent a lot of money on them yes they may qualify as AAA but for the most part it was Microsofts way at prying into the wii’s market saying, hey look your kids can wave their arms around over here too….

            But for the exclusives thing at least you are willing to admit that it is totally opinion based as I have noticed in your posts “IMO”

            Again I posted the link to end that argument sooner than both sides simply stating their console has the most AAA exclusives… Not so much an argument or anything.. Good day

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Tomb Raider is a rental, Titanfall is a joke and KI isn’t even finished.

            “I get two free Indie games a month that I get to keep as well”

            Might want to double check that, friend.

          • Will

            Thanks for your clueless write-off of excellent games. I’m sure you’d prefer Knack.

          • ?????

            Titanfall is a joke, yet you never played it, asshole. KI is finished, you just suck at it.
            You get 1 indie a month.
            What a dumbass.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Played Titanfall on PC on the beta, got bored after an hour. “Season 2” of KI suggests otherwise.
            What a dumbass.

          • ?????

            Something tells me you didn’t play Titanfall. Besides, who the hell plays it on PC anyway? Season 2 means another version.
            What a dumbass.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Same game on all platforms. Pretty ridiculous the 360 version outperformed the Xbone, actually.

            Season 2 means they’re adding new content because KI was a rush release with a year’s dev time.

            What a dumbass.

          • ?????

            “Pretty ridiculous the 360 version outperformed the Xbone, actually.”
            I’d like some proof.
            Its pretty obvious you’ve never played Killer Instinct.
            What a dumbass.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Here. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-face-off-titanfall-on-xbox-360

            I played Filler. Wasn’t that hot. But then I should have expected that from Double Helix. Oh well.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Another double post thanks to my internet!

          • lol

            Already posted below but here goes.
            Killzone Shadowfall, Knack, Infamous Second son, The last of us rematered vs Forza 5.

          • Will

            You left out a bunch.

          • lol

            Really? Are you talking about some kinect games? Can you help me complete the list? :)

          • Will

            Look at the list below.

          • lol

            Sorry where? Did you post the list somewhere? I made a search for “forza 5” on this page and only found it 3 times none of had other AAA exclusives. Why don’t you just simply list them?

          • Will

            See the list that pbizkit posted? That’s the one.

          • lol

            So are you referring to the list in the site listwar?

            Fighter within, Ryse, Kinect sport rival, Zoo Tycoon, Deadrising 3, Titanfall and Zumba fitness.

            So here goes:
            Kinect sport rival is debatable. I think this kinect game isn’t a AAA but I’ll give it to you if you want.
            Next
            Are you considering Fighter within a AAA game?
            Zoo Tycon, Titanfall, Deadrising 3 & Zumba fitness are not exclusive to Xbox One
            Ryse is a timed exclusive.

            If that was not the list please add games that I missed.

          • Will

            “So are you referring to the list in the site listwar?”

            Yep, that’s the one.

            “I think this kinect game isn’t a AAA but I’ll give it to you if you want.”

            Oh, will you give it to me? Considering Kinect Sports sold over 5 mil, yeah, I’d say it’s AAA.

            “Zoo Tycon, Titanfall, Deadrising 3 & Zumba fitness are not exclusive to Xbox One”

            :D In the realm of console platform, Zoo Tycoon, Titanfall, and Dead Rising 3 most certainly ARE exclusive.

            “Ryse is a timed exclusive.”

            . . . which is still an exclusive, even if it is “timed”.

            You missed Killer Instinct.

          • lol

            Ok few things here.

            1)Meaning of exclusivity:
            Not shared : available to ONLY ONE system, person or group.
            Meaning Xbox One exclusives are ONLY present on XBOX ONE. If it is or will be avaialble on other system it’s not an exclusive

            2)Timed-exclusive is not equal to exclusive. The 2 terms are not related. A timed exclusive is not an exclusive by definition.

            3)Also AAA doesn’t relate totally to sales number. It also relates to highest budget. There is a reason the game wasn’t added in pbizkit’s initial list.

            While you can try and debate about AAA status, you can’t argue with the meaning of the term “exclusivity”. Unless you’re trying to redefine the meaning of the word I don’t see how it can be debated.

          • Will

            Okay, a few more things. . .

            “Not shared : available to ONLY ONE system, person or group.”

            So if it’s available on Xbox One and 360, that Xbox platform would be one “group”. Likewise, if it’s available only to Microsoft products (Xbox, Windows, etc.) that would be one “group”.

            “Timed-exclusive is not equal to exclusive.”

            No, it’s not equal. It’s a sub-category of “exclusive”. It means it’s exclusive “now”, but may not be in the future.

            “The 2 terms are not related.”

            They are very much related. A timed exclusive is a subset of the term ‘exclusive’.

            “Unless you’re trying to redefine the meaning of the word I don’t see how it can be debated.”

            YOU were trying to redefine it, which is why we’re debating it.

            I’ll also point out that the context of this discussion is specifically Xbox One vs. PS4. So, the whole point of arguing which games are available serves that purpose alone. So, in trying to be “smart”, you have missed the point.

          • lol

            “So if it’s available on Xbox One and 360, that Xbox platform would be one “group”. Likewise, if it’s available only to Microsoft products (Xbox, Windows, etc.) that would be one “group”.”
            Unfortunately for you, we were talking about exclusives to XB1 not exclusives to a group. Most of us here have a PC so we can get the game without needing to buy an X1.

            “No, it’s not equal. It’s a sub-category of “exclusive”. It means it’s exclusive “now”, but may not be in the future.They are very much related. A timed exclusive is a subset of the term ‘exclusive’.”
            It’s not equal and cannot be considered the same. And no I don’t believe it is a subset or a type of exclusive. For me, they are different in the sense that we know that in few days it simply will be available on another system.
            Why do you think there was so much noise about Tomb Raider why don’t you think MS exclusive in holiday 2015 and not simply exclusive.

            “I’ll also point out that the context of this discussion is specifically Xbox One vs. PS4. So, the whole point of arguing which games are available serves that purpose alone. So, in trying to be “smart”, you have missed the point.”
            Well, Maybe you should consider using your word more “wisely”. Xbox One AAA exclusive means Xbox one AAA exclusive no matter what the context is. Maybe you should have talked of “next gen console exclusives”.

            Even if I count Ryse (for another few days) and kinect sports rival, I can’t see how PS4 has less AAA exclusives games.

          • Will

            “Unfortunately for you, we were talking about exclusives to XB1 not exclusives to a group.”

            No, WE were talking about games available on either XOne or PS4. YOU were talking about the “definition of exclusive.” I guess you just didn’t catch on from the discussion, but latched on to semantics.

            “And no I don’t believe it is a subset or a type of exclusive.”

            You don’t believe? I thought you couldn’t redefine a word and it shouldn’t be debated? Timed exclusive is absolutely a subset to the term exclusive.

            “For me, they are different in the sense that we know that in few days it simply will be available on another system.”

            A few days? So Ryse will be on PS4 next week? That’s a big announcement.

            Again, the POINT is PS4 doesn’t have those games that XOne does, and vice versa. Keep arguing, though.

            “Xbox One AAA exclusive means Xbox one AAA exclusive no matter what the context is. Maybe you should have talked of ‘next gen console exclusives’.”

            Alright. What we mean is “next-gen console exclusives.” Whatever floats your boat. Either way, PS4 doesn’t have more of them.

          • lol

            “No, WE were talking about games available on either XOne or PS4. YOU were talking about the “definition of exclusive.” I guess you just didn’t catch on from the discussion, but latched on to semantics.”
            You said “PS4 has less AAA exclusives” not me. I responded to that point. Sorry but exclusive means exclusive not “next-gen console exclusives”.

            “You don’t believe? I thought you couldn’t redefine a word and it shouldn’t be debated? Timed exclusive is absolutely a subset to the term exclusive.”
            I’m not redefining anything. A timed-exclusive simply is not an exclusive. There is a “time” aspect to it. It simply cannot be a subset because an timed-exclusive is not exclusive. It is an exclusive for a fix amount of time and then it’s not. That’s why we say Tomb Raider is a timed-exclusive and not an exclusive.
            While it may be exclusive at the moment in few days it won’t. In few days that argument won’t be valid.

            “A few days? So Ryse will be on PS4 next week? That’s a big announcement.”
            Now did I say that? PS4 may be another system but it’s not the only other system.

            “Alright. What we mean is “next-gen console exclusives.” Whatever floats your boat. Either way, PS4 doesn’t have more of them.”
            Cool. At least we got that right. Maybe next time you’ll use the proper words…

            Oh and if you consider “next-gen console exclusives” then maybe you could add Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, MotoGP 14, Dynasty Warriors 8, MLB 14: The Show, War Thunder, Nobunaga no Yabo, Blacklight: Retribution and some others to the PS4 list. So maybe you’re comment “have less” is wrong too. ;)

          • Will

            “You said “PS4 has less AAA exclusives” not me.”

            You’re right. I said that. What I meant was, a comparison of games between PS4 and XOne. Because they are the two platforms in question, and we are directly comparing them. It seems most others got that point, though it wasn’t explicitly stated.

            “It is an exclusive for a fix amount of time”

            Exactly, it is an exclusive.

            “It simply cannot be a subset because an timed-exclusive is not exclusive.”

            Not going to continue arguing this point. If you don’t get what a subset is, you don’t get what a subset is.

            “While it may be exclusive at the moment in few days it won’t.”

            There you go with the “a few days” again. It’s a LONG few days, I guess.

            “Cool. At least we got that right.”

            Agreed.

            “Maybe next time you’ll use the proper words…”

            Maybe. . . or maybe it just doesn’t concern me, since most people seem to “pick up” what is being talked about, instead of fretting over minute technicalities and missing the point.

            “So maybe you’re comment “have less” is wrong too. ;)”

            Maybe, maybe not. But certainly not based on your list. Blacklight: Retribution? Nope.

          • lol

            “Maybe. . . or maybe it just doesn’t concern me, since most people seem to “pick up” what is being talked about, instead of fretting over minute technicalities and missing the point.”
            Being precise and choosing the right words is very important in a debate. I know you’re trying to make the X1 look good so “more exclusives AAA” sounds better than “next-gen console exclusives”.
            The thing is we are looking at reasons to buy a PS4 vs an X1. Most of us here have PCs and other system. “True” exclusives are what counts the most for each console. I wouldn’t buy an X1 for Zoo Tycoon, Titanfall or deadrising 3 since I’ll be able to play them without buying an X1.

            MS and their fans always seem to misuse the word exclusive to make people think that these games will ONLY be available on X1 when that’s not the case.

            How can you say “most people seem to ‘pick up'” what you meant? Maybe people didn’t try to check it thinking you were telling the truth. The fact remains that your sentence was wrong, you can’t hide behind “context” or “missing the point”.

            “Maybe, maybe not. But certainly not based on your list.”
            Yeah, the main thing is that it’s debatable and not as clear cut as you implied.
            Maybe you could give your actual list so that things clear.
            I have taken out Blacklight: Retribution but the list doesn’t clearly show that the PS4 has less next-gen AAA console exclusive:
            Killzone Shadowfall
            Knack
            Infamous Second son
            The last of us rematered
            Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
            MotoGP 14
            Dynasty Warriors 8
            MLB 14: The Show
            War Thunder
            Nobunaga no Yabo

            Forza 5
            Ryse
            Kinect sport rival
            Zoo Tycoon
            Deadrising 3
            Titanfall

          • Will

            “The thing is we are looking at reasons to buy a PS4 vs an X1.”

            If that is the case, then that listwar resource is perfect. It gives you a quick glimpse of what’s available for either system.

            Personally, I didn’t, and wouldn’t, buy one or the other just based on which has more exclusives. I’d buy it based on which particular games I want to play on that particular system, regardless of whether it’s on something else. For a good action brawler like Ryse, I wouldn’t even consider playing on PC, since I can enjoy it on my couch with an excellent wireless controller, and enjoy the “definitive” experience, knowing the game was optimized for that system. If you like, or prefer, playing on PC, then the scenario and decision would be different for you.

            Same with Titanfall. I’d much rather utilize Microsoft’s multiplayer services to enjoy the game, as well as the controller, optimized game, clearly better visuals than 360, etc., than play on a PC. For me, PS4’s offerings, AAA or otherwise, don’t hold a candle to Xbox One’s. Killer Instinct alone holds more sway for me than any currently available exclusive PS4 offers. I love fighters, and I think the KI reboot is brilliant. Forza is a huge factor for me, having followed the series since its first iteration. I’ve never been a big racing game fan, yet I love what the Forza series has done, and find myself delving into each successor. Forza 5 has not disappointed in my book; I love the way the cars handle, love the “feel” and effect of the wind in the latest game, love the passion for and attention to the cars displayed in it. It looks and plays phenomenally. Horizon 2 looks impressive to me as well. I could go on. I truly enjoy playing the Xbox One. The games look great; I love the controller, love the UI, the multiplayer, etc.

            You and I have been arguing semantics. Using a precise definition hardly fulfills a purpose for me. I entered this debate simply because somebody was being insulted and assaulted for claiming the XOne has more AAA exclusives, which for that person, and the opposing party, apparently meant something to them. The opposing party couldn’t substantiate their claim, yet displayed a cocky, flamboyant attitude anyway.

            “Being precise and choosing the right words is very important in a debate.”

            So, if you want to be technically accurate, again, you can’t just discount certain games because they don’t meet your view of the definition. Games that are exclusive to Microsoft and are available on Xbox One, are still exclusive, by strict definition. You certainly can, and should, discount what you want to fulfill a personal purpose.

            Here’s what I count:

            PS4: Killzone (lame, IMO), Knack (no thanks), Infamous (looks interesting), Injustice (cool), TLoU (will probably pick this up when I get a PS4, years later), FF XIV, MLB 14.

            XOne: Forza 5, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Kinect Sports Rivals, Zoo Tycoon, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Zumba, Dance Central.

          • lol

            “somebody was being insulted and assaulted for claiming the XOne has more AAA exclusives” “The opposing party couldn’t substantiate their claim, yet displayed a cocky, flamboyant attitude anyway.”
            I’m not sure I’m getting what you’re saying. So do you think I assaulted and insulted you?
            So is :
            “PS4 has less AAA exclusives? haha
            Can you compare 2 lists?”
            Insulting and an assault? And didn’t I also proved that the PS4 doesn’t have less AAA exclusives?

            “Games that are exclusive to Microsoft and are available on Xbox One, are still exclusive, by strict definition.”
            Games that are exclusive to Microsoft are still exclusive TO MICROSOFT. But they are not Xbox one exclusives if they are available on other systems(MS or otherwise). How is it so difficult to understand?

            “So, if you want to be technically accurate, again, you can’t just discount certain games because they don’t meet your view of the definition.”
            And that’s exactly what you’re doing with your list.

            PS4: Killzone, Knack, Infamous, Injustice, TLoU, FF XIV, MLB 14.
            XOne: Forza 5, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Kinect Sports Rivals, Zoo Tycoon, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Zumba, Dance Central.

            You are including the likes of Zumba that is developed by a tiny studio and Dance Central that isn’t even retail and costs $9,99!!! And Killer instinct is also not retail and just around $20.

            Also not including Dynasty Warriors 8 which is a very popular franchise in Japan, Nobunaga no Yabo(Nobunaga’s Ambition) a popular serie in Japan and developed by one of the biggest name in Japan. You could have also included A LOT more games if you wanted to include a game like Zumba developed by a tiny studio. But ofc you HAD to show that there were more even if it meant including small budget games on one and ignoring bigger budget games on the other.

          • Will

            “So do you think I assaulted and insulted you?”

            Of course not. :D I joined in this discussion way back when folks called Sublimetalmsg and John Doe were posting about it. I was referring to the former, specifically, who retaliated against not me, but someone else.

            “You are including the likes of Zumba that is developed by a tiny studio and Dance Central that isn’t even retail and costs $9,99!!!”

            But both Zumba and Dance Central’s titles can sell over five million copies each, per platform. With sales like that, I’m not sure what kind of budgets are allotted to them. Dynasty Warriors sales typically struggle to reach a million, and Nobunaga games apparently struggle even more.

            “And Killer instinct is also not retail and just around $20.”

            KI deliberately chose to try a different pricing and distribution model. But the game is definitely a colossal studio effort, with cutting edge tech.

            Really, we could bicker all day about what is and isn’t AAA. I, for one, honestly don’t care. For me, it’s the specific games that I want that matter.

          • lol

            “But both Zumba and Dance Central’s titles can sell over five million copies each, per platform. With sales like that, I’m not sure what kind of budgets are allotted to them. Dynasty Warriors sales typically struggle to reach a million, and Nobunaga games apparently struggle even more.”
            It would have been extremly difficult selling 5 million considering they have probably sold around that number of Xbox one worldwide. The last dance central sold around 700K on the 360(with a much bigger base than current X1). For information Zumba sold around 100k. Quite far from the 5 million.

            We can’t really call a 10$ at launch a AAA game. It simply can’t cover up the development cost needed for a AAA game. Maybe I could step up and call Infamous first light a AAA exclusive since it’s a standalone game?
            It is also unlikely that a small studio could finance a AAA game specially considering how little it sells…

            Also I totally forgot to mention Yakuza: Ishin which sold quite well in Japan. This and DW8 that I mentioned are retail games sold at full price. They have sold more than the likes of Zoo Tycoon. They are both developed and published by big studios.

            “KI deliberately chose to try a different pricing and distribution model. But the game is definitely a colossal studio effort, with cutting edge tech.”
            This is like the 10$ game. This is digital only, and only cost 20 bucks. It simply can’t cover the development cost of a AAA game(especially if it comes out on only one system that had only around 2-3 million base for 2 months).

            “Really, we could bicker all day about what is and isn’t AAA. I, for one, honestly don’t care. For me, it’s the specific games that I want that matter.”
            Well, what I don’t understand is that why you guys are making statement about Xbox one having more AAA exclusives or “next-gen console exclusives” as though it is clear cut and it is a fact. But if we look closely that’s hardly true.
            If you prefer X1 games and prefer playing games available on PC than it’s great for you. The Xbox one is perfect for you.

        • XbotMK1

          Yourcomment doesn’t make any sense.

          Do you know the difference between innovation and monopolization?

          Betamax = innovation
          SharePlay = innovation
          Blu Ray = innovation
          Dualshock 4 = innovation
          VR = innovation

          Windows operating system = PC monopolization and little to no innovation.
          Offerring devs free servers = monopolization with no innovation
          Paying 3rd party devs for full exclusivity for a timed period = monopolization and no innovation.
          Partnerring with cable companies to put tv exclusively on your console = monopolization and no innovation

          PlayStation = more innovation
          Xbox One = more monopolization

          Sony doesn’t have an estimated 78% chance of bankruptcy and Nintendo isn’t even close to the size of Sony. Investors and loans are two different things so your comment is false and doesn’t make any sense.

          It looks like Xbox One’s failures have turned Xbots into rabid animals LOL

          • bardock5151

            Every one of those “innovations” is built on the hard work already done by others VR is not Sony’s, Blu-ray is not Sony(consortium look it up), DS4 has only a touch screen and a light bar, hardly innovation more like drawbacks(battery) and gimmicks. That leaves two true “innovations” for Sony. Microsoft isn’t monopolising its just good business and their products are of high quality. Nintendo also has better financial reports than Sony, Nintendo even has cash surplus. Investors and loans are linked you obviously haven’t got any idea what your talking about.

          • $113353191

            It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that hateful, delusional microsoft fanboy shills are left desperately spreading lies and FUD about Sony going bankrupt. Keep dreaming, it’s not happening.

            Sony is on its way to recovering from years of losses and recently posted a quarterly profit as almost all of their divisions were profitable. They are not going bankrupt.

            Sony has total assets worth US$148.9 billion dollars, yearly revenue of $75+ billion, and $27+ billion in total equity. It is still one of the largest corporations on the planet with 150,000+ employees, ranked #233 in The World’s Biggest Public Companies on Forbes, and ranked #94 on the Fortune 500 2013.

            One rating agency’s opinion on Sony’s stock means almost nothing. Sony is recovering in finances, it posted a profit last quarter with almost all divisions reporting a profit including the Games division, and its stock price is stable or rising recently.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            The games division is in a net profit, posted a profit last quarter, and is well funded. Sony Computer Entertainment employs over 8,000 people working on Playstation across 50 countries. PSN is vastly improved and Sony is continually investing more into improving it.

            Macroaxis probability of bankruptcy declined from 79% to 44% and continues to shrink to this day, indicating a recovery.

            A single rating agency downgraded their opinion on Sony debt, it means almost nothing, there are MULTIPLE rating agencies and they all amount to investor’s opinions, not directly relating to Sony’s finances.

            As an example, streetinsider currently has 10 investment firms with a BUY rating on Sony stock, 5 hold, and zero sell. That’s likely due to Sony posting an operating profit last quarter, and stocks rising in the last 3 months.

            The picture is more complicated (and upward looking) than the link you posted. Sony’s finances have improved since then.

            It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that ignorant fanboys are left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Look up Sony on Wikipedia, Forbes, Google, Sony’s quarterly reports, etc. and start reading instead of blindly flinging fanboy crap. You might learn something.

          • ?????

            Wrong, they just lost another billion LOL.

        • $113353191

          It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that hateful, delusional microsoft fanboy shills are left desperately spreading lies and FUD about Sony going bankrupt. Keep dreaming, it’s not happening. You are lying, sick, and evil.

          No Nintendo is not “a larger company than Sony”. You are lying, sick, and evil.

          Sony is on its way to recovering from years of losses and recently posted a quarterly profit as almost all of their divisions were profitable. They are not going bankrupt.

          Sony has total assets worth US$148.9 billion dollars, yearly revenue of $75+ billion, and $27+ billion in total equity. It is still one of the largest corporations on the planet with 150,000+ employees, ranked #233 in The World’s Biggest Public Companies on Forbes, and ranked #94 on the Fortune 500 2013.

          One rating agency’s opinion on Sony’s stock means almost nothing. Sony is recovering in finances, it posted a profit last quarter with almost all divisions reporting a profit including the Games division, and its stock price is stable or rising recently.

          Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

          The games division is in a net profit, posted a profit last quarter, and is well funded. Sony Computer Entertainment employs over 8,000 people working on Playstation across 50 countries. PSN is vastly improved and Sony is continually investing more into improving it.

          Macroaxis probability of bankruptcy declined from 79% to 44% and continues to shrink to this day, indicating a recovery.

          A single rating agency downgraded their opinion on Sony debt, it means almost nothing, there are MULTIPLE rating agencies and they all amount to investor’s opinions, not directly relating to Sony’s finances.

          As an example, streetinsider currently has 10 investment firms with a BUY rating on Sony stock, 5 hold, and zero sell. That’s likely due to Sony posting an operating profit last quarter, and stocks rising in the last 3 months.

          The picture is more complicated (and upward looking) than the link you posted. Sony’s finances have improved since then.

          It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that ignorant fanboys are left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Look up Sony on Wikipedia, Forbes, Google, Sony’s quarterly reports, etc. and start reading instead of blindly flinging fanboy crap. You might learn something.

          PS4 is selling in line with the other two active consoles Wii U and PS3, at around 6-9k a week. PS4 sold 332k in its first two days on sale in Japan, similar to Wii U.

          Intent to buy PS4 probably increased by a good amount after TGS 2014. They announced a lot of popular Japanese franchises like Gundam, Dragon Quest, Persona, etc.

          PS4 sales will increase as devs move from PS3 to PS4. PS3 is still an active console in Japan, it’s taking longer to fade out. Sony still has a strong overall presence in Japan between PS3, PS4, and Vita.

          Xbox is a decent console with good exclusive games, just some fanboys have serious problems accepting sales and hardware reality.

          PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.
          Tier 2 markets are launching this month to little sales as expected by anyone sane.

          Time for the fanboys constantly shouting “PS4 in more countries!!” to eat crow.

          PS4 will outsell Xbox in China like every other country on the planet. PS4 sales are still going strong, Xbox sales declined sharply after the 2013 launch. PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales. Spreading deranged fanboy lies and hatred will not change that.

          780k is a highly unlikely estimate for pre-orders in China. Try ~100k.

          Right now PS4 ~10 million, Wii U ~7 million, Xbox One ~5 million sold to consumers.

          Xbox One sold 197k in June NPD, down to 131k in July NPD. August NPD doesn’t look good either. The $400 SKU was only a temporary bump so far. The “boost in sales” is over already. There’s no more ‘a faster rate’.

          Tier 2 countries will do very little for Xbox sales. An extra 5-15% a month at most after the launch month. Xbox has almost no presence outside of the 13 countries they already launched in. The global picture is accurate as-is.

          The 13 countries Xbox One already launched in account for 85-90% of 360 sales. The remaining markets are tiny and PS3/PS4 dominated. Most unlaunched European countries already have stacks of grey market Xboxes.

          PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.

          PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales. Xbox is a weak global brand outside of US and UK and it can’t even take those. In European countries like Germany PS4 is outselling Xbox 3:1.

          XB1 is currently ahead of 360 time adjusted, but several months in 2014 it’s been selling less than 360 month-to-month. In other words, unless XB1 sales increase, it will fall under 360 time adjusted.

          They need a serious momentum boost to keep ahead of 360, they’re still in 3rd place behind Wii U, and even Wii U has been outselling XB1 the last few months in global sales.

          XB1 will probably sell less than 360 long term due to a shrinking console market and PS4 taking more marketshare.

          360 2005: 1.178m
          XB1 2013: 3.051m

          360 2006: 6.811m
          XB1 2014 (so far): 1.984m. Pretty much zero chance of XB1’s 2014 outselling 360’s 2006.

          That means even if XB1 sells 2 million in the remainder of 2014, it will be even with 360, then get outsold by 360 sometime in 2015.

          360 went on to sell 8m, 11m, 10m, 13.5m, 14m, 10.6m, and 6.2m in subsequent years up to 2013. You think XB1 can keep up? I don’t.

          PS3+360 > PS4+XB1. Console market is overall shrinking not growing. Shrinking market + PS4 taking a lot of former 360 marketshare = XB1 sells less than 360, almost guaranteed.

          I expect some strong meltdowns as the tier 2 “failure to launch” continues this month, while PS4 Destiny bundles sell by the truckloads.

          http://www.listwar.com

          PS4 has many great games that gamers love. That’s why it’s 10+ million in sales and growing. Sony’s large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.

          According to Listwar PS4 has 113 games released right now, 76 upcoming retail games, and many more digital download games.

          PS4/Sony exclusives Jun-Dec: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Guilty Gear Xrd, Singstar, and lots of indies (Resogun DLC, Counterspy, Hohokum, Velocity 2X, etc.).

          PS4/Sony exclusives 2015 (announced): Bloodborne, The Order, Ratchet & Clank Remastered, Uncharted 4, Let It Die, Deep Down, and lots of indies.

          PS4 has 35+ AAA games from July to December 2014. Most of those are multiplatform but there’s no shortage of AAA games for PS4 owners.

          PS4 games rated 73+ on Metacritic not on XB1: Final Fantasy XIV, Resogun, Transistor, MLB 14, Injustice, Trine 2: Complete Story, TowerFall Ascension, Infamous 2nd Son, Don’t Starve, flower, War Thunder, DC Universe Online, Dead Nation, Dynasty Warriors 8, MotoGP 14, Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee, TLOU Remastered, The Swapper, ZEN Pinball 2, Star Wars Pinball, The Pinball Arcade, Pure Pool, Fez, Rogue Legacy, Sound Shapes, Sportsfriends, PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate, SteamWorld Dig, Awesomenauts Assemble, Titan Attacks, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Escape Plan, Outlast: Whistleblower, Hohokum, Velocity 2X.

          1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc.

          Sony’s largest 1st party studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, and Santa Monica are working on unrevealed AAA games. Expect big 1st party AAA reveals in the future. Sony’s 1st parties are well funded and the games division is making a profit.

          Sony showed the following games at Gamescom 2014:

          Sony exclusives: The Tomorrow Children, Until Dawn, Tearaway Unfolded, Alienation, WiLD, Rime, DriveClub, The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, LittleBigPlanet 3

          Timed console exclusives: Dreamfall Chapters, HellBlade, The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter, Volume, HollowPoint, Runemaster, Nom Nom Galaxy, Pix the Cat, Papers Please, In Space We Brawl, Ether One, Qube 2, Snow

          Multiplatform games: Silent Hills (P.T. playable teaser), FarCry 4, Destiny, Shadow Of Mordor

          Sony announced a ton of new Japanese games for PS4 at TGS 2014.

          PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

          • ?????

            Cry more.

        • Oscar Portillo

          The Betamax comment already proves how ignorant you are as it became the ideal format for the TV industry and did not go well for the general public because it was hard to use but had better resolution and more features than vhs.

          But as a poor kid you probably could not afford one in your household.

          • spacemonkiee

            Maybe people didn’t like to have two cassettes to watch a standard length movie, or you can just make fun of them for growing up too poor.
            Stay classy friend.

      • bardock5151

        1. Calling it more powerful is like having two cars, one of which has the stereo, gps, A/C, power steering all removed to make it slightly faster than normal and the other car has all the benefits of luxury plus a turbo.
        2.More exclusives Sony has but only a handful are truly successful or any good.
        3.Your point is proof of Sony money hatting publishers.
        4/5.That less expensive subscription service provides you with a lesser online service in both stability and security. You only get more games through more available platforms.
        6.Microsoft is still supporting the 360 and plan to through to 10+ years. The PS2 was only supported because it was PlayStations’ only real source of revenue at the beginning of the PS3 problem.
        7.Microsoft’s customer support is unrivalled right now either through complaints and queries or listening and acting on feedback.
        8.Microsoft hopefully brings back game share to drop share play on its head and I you have to get someone else to play your game maybe you should lower the difficulty otherwise what’s the point in winning if you didn’t.

        Just correcting misconceptions.

        • sublimetalmsg

          You dont get the turbo. And if your comparing cars a PC would be a ferri and that doesn’t have AC, some not even power steering.

        • XbotMK1

          You Xbots are trully delusional. You will try and spin anything and state blatant lies to defend your dying console.

          1. The PS4 is stronger and faster. This is fact and the comparison you tried to make didn’t make sense and is borderline retarded.

          2. The PS4 has more AAA exclusives. This is fact not opinion. PS4 exclusives are outselling Xbox exclusives and most Xbox exclusives are “timed”. Gran Turismo, Uncharted, The Last of Us, God of War, Little Big Planet, Killzone, Infamous, and many more are all very successful and profitable Sony franchises. What exclusives does Microsoft have that are profitable besides rip offs of Sony’s franchises or timed 3rd party exclusives?

          3. How is Sony the one money hatting publishers? Titanfall, COD DLC, and Rise of the Tomb Raider ring any bells? Infact, most of Microsoft’s first party franchises started off as 3rd party exclusives. Halo and Queers of War ring any bells? Sony’s successful franchises are created with their first party studios or in collaboration with their first party studios and they aren’t timed exclusives . I supose offerring free servers isn’t Microsoft trying to money hat 3rd parties and monopolize. Your lies are disgusting.

          PS+ offers more games and it doesn’t lock free to plays and party chat behind a paywall. It also provides exclusive features not on Xbox . If Xbox Live is so great why is Microsoft copying Sony’s service? If Xbox Live is so secure and stable, how come I can find countless articles dating back to when Xbox Live went down, had game launch problems, down after DDOS attacks, and numerous hackng incidents resulting in accounts being stolen and user data being posted online? It looks like every PSN problem gets exaggerated by media and Xbox Live’s security problems get swept under a rug and lied about by Microsoft. Paying for a service doesn’t make it more secure and stable.

          Security doesn’t require 5 million people to pay $60 a year for multiplayer. What about the people who don’t subscribe to Xbox Live but they still use the Xbox Live store? Do you see how stupid your comment is?

          6. Was that a joke? You do realize Microsoft killed off the Xbox because it was losing billions right? They admitted it. Where were the Xbox 360’s exclusives for the past 5 years? Maybe that is why the PS3 destroyed it in the end.

          7. Yeah, Microsoft has amazing customer service which is why Microsoft tried to screw everyone with excessive DRM and told everyone to deal with it. It’s why Microsoft coppied Sony’s PS+ program. It’s why Microsoft tried to force Kinect down your throat and requires you to buy a headset adaptor and battery pack.

          8. Microsoft’s family sharing isn’t the same as SharePlay. Go look up what SharePlay is and what it allows players to do.

          You’re not fixing misconceptions. You’re only trying to create them in a weak attempt to damage control for Microsoft’s failures. Infact most of the things you stated apply to Microsoft, not Sony. Now stop with the Xbox fanboy bullshit.

          • Will

            I think the word “delusional” is misapplied here. Many of your statements are questionable, at best.

            “The PS4 is stronger and faster.”

            Well, calling it “slightly faster” is actually much more accurate than what you wrote. The PS4 and Xbox One are quite competitive in performance. This is why the games don’t show a significant real-world difference. The chief technical officer of 4A Games said the PS4 is “a bit more powerful.” This has already been established from the start from various other developers and industry insiders as well.

            The idea that the PS4 is significantly more powerful than the Xbox One is a complete myth, continuously perpetuated by the (usually zealous) uninformed. How that myth is upheld at all is somewhat mysterious, considering the games speak for themselves.

            “The PS4 has more AAA exclusives. This is fact not opinion.”

            Really? Do you have a source for this? I’m PRETTY SURE the XOne has more (and better, IMO) AAA exclusives right now.

            “It looks like every PSN problem gets exaggerated by media and Xbox Live’s security problems get swept under a rug and lied about by Microsoft.”

            Again, do you have a source for this? I mean, from my experience, Microsoft has been pretty up front whenever there was a problem with their online servers. What’s up with the conspiracy theories?

            I have to agree that Xbox Live is a solid, well-built, and robust online service.

            It seems to me that what gets grossly exaggerated is PS4’s performance with respect to the Xbox One. They are very close, and the games show it.

          • spacemonkiee

            Shhhh stop it, PS4 fan boys don’t need to substantiate their arguments, rhetoric is so much better.

            Besides haven’t you heard Microsoft’s basically the devil, google told me so on my MacBook.

          • Youngy

            Say what you want about Xbox live, it doesn’t have to be taken down for a ” maintenance day ” like PSN.

          • ?????

            Get mental help, it’s not healthy to hate on pieces of plastic.
            You are lying, evil, mentally ill, feece flinging, demented human fanboy waste.

          • ?????

            Another blind fanboy who is spouting bullshit and too poor to afford an Xbox.

        • $113353191

          PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

          You are ignorant of the reasons PS4 is selling, instead making up insane conspiracy theories about “overhype” and “indoctrinated consumers”. That indicates you are mentally ill and prone to fantastical delusions instead of accepting reality.

          http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/07/31/sony-gives-more-info-on-psn-investment-and-online-revenues-ps4-sales-timing-in-china-still-undecided/

          http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/05/24/sonys-kaz-hirai-details-the-future-strategy-for-playstation-promises-mindset-changes-and-investment/

          Sony is investing more in PSN servers.

          There is very little you can do to prevent a DDOS other than buying a lot more servers to handle excess load. That is why huge companies like Blizzard, Twitch, and Riot Games keep getting DDOSed despite all their efforts and server capacity.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation

          DDOS is NOT a hack, they are NOT hackers. PSN did NOT get hacked.

          Battlenet, Riot Games, and Twitch all went down to the same DDOSers. It’s not security, MS just has a ton of underutilized servers to handle the extra DDOS load. Partly due to the fact that half as many Xboxes have sold as PS4s.

          PS3 got tons of exclusive games and 1st party support long after MS abandoned 360 to multiplats and kinect shovelware.

          PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

          You are ignorant of the reasons PS4 is selling, instead making up insane conspiracy theories about “overhype” and “indoctrinated consumers”. That indicates you are mentally ill and prone to fantastical delusions instead of accepting reality.

          PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.

          • spacemonkiee

            Yes PSN was taken down by a DDOS attack, which is not the same as being “hacked” however they were Hacked a few years ago and lost a ton of people’s personal info such as,

            Name, address (city, state, postal code), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID.

            Profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, postal code), and the subscriber’s PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers. The same data with respect to a dependent may also have been obtained.

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/sony-playstation-account-info-hacked-1.1000080

            wikipedia said,

            “At the time of the outage, with a count of 77 million registered PlayStation Network accounts,[7] it was one of the largest data security breaches in history”

            It was so bad,

            “Government officials in various countries voiced concern over the theft and Sony’s one-week delay before warning its users.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage#Credit_card_fraud

            I would say Microsoft has a better track record with their service, and no this was not “overhyped”

            Also I find your manner of conducting civil discourse, trite, rude and overall reeking of asshatery.

            It would behoove you to learn to speak to people civilly and
            stop trying to belittle people for having differing opinions then your own.

            I bid you good day sir.

      • sergeantnorider

        You mean like how they are supporting the Vita with all those AAA exclusives. Man its raining…lol…look out…damn that was close.

        • XbotMK1

          Uncharted, Killzone, Tearaway, God Eater, Soul Sacrifice, Assassin’s Creed, God of War, COD, Borderlands 2, and many more.

          Infact the Vita has received more exclusives than the Xbox 360 has in the past 3 years.

          The Vita is a handheld with a small instal base but it serves a greater purpose as an “optional” accessory for the PS4.

          Use your brain before posting.

          • ?????

            ROFL 3 of those were multiplat, you dumbass. Most of those were garbage anyway. No wonder why the 3ds kicks the Vita’s ass!

        • $113353191

          Vita has tons of game support especially from Japanese developers.

      • ?????

        Get mental help, it’s not healthy to hate on pieces of plastic.
        You are lying, evil, mentally ill, feece flinging human fanboy waste.

    • Shannon Novosel

      Keep trying to spin losing in a positive xbot.

      • sergeantnorider

        And you think you’ve won something? Buy buying a console? Sounds like you’re compensating. Just saying.

        • Shannon Novosel

          Oh an xbot who thinks sales don’t matter lol i understand they have the lowest sales out of all three companies just like you are the smallest in the bathroom. Just saying.

          • Youngy

            They have the smallest sales because it’s out in 11 markets as opposed to sony’s 48

          • Shannon Novosel

            Here come the excuses and they are in more than 11 markets

          • $113353191

            PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.

            Tier 2 markets are launching this month to little sales as expected by anyone sane. PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales this gen.

            Right now PS4 ~10 million, Wii U ~7 million, Xbox One ~5 million sold to consumers.

            Xbox One sold 197k in June NPD, down to 131k in July NPD. August NPD doesn’t look good either. The $400 SKU was only a temporary bump so far. The “boost in sales” is over already. There’s no more ‘a faster rate’.

            Tier 2 countries will do very little for Xbox sales. An extra 5-15% a month at most after the launch month. Xbox has almost no presence outside of the 13 countries they already launched in. The global picture is accurate as-is.

            The 13 countries Xbox One already launched in account for 85-90% of 360 sales. The remaining markets are tiny and PS3/PS4 dominated. Most unlaunched European countries already have stacks of grey market Xboxes.

            PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales. Xbox is a weak global brand outside of US and UK and it can’t even take those. In European countries like Germany PS4 is outselling Xbox 3:1.

            XB1 is currently ahead of 360 time adjusted, but several months in 2014 it’s been selling less than 360 month-to-month. In other words, unless XB1 sales increase, it will fall under 360 time adjusted.

            They need a serious momentum boost to keep ahead of 360, they’re still in 3rd place behind Wii U, and even Wii U has been outselling XB1 the last few months in global sales.

            XB1 will probably sell less than 360 long term due to a shrinking console market and PS4 taking more marketshare.

            360 2005: 1.178m
            XB1 2013: 3.051m

            360 2006: 6.811m
            XB1 2014 (so far): 1.984m. Pretty much zero chance of XB1’s 2014 outselling 360’s 2006.

            That means even if XB1 sells 2 million in the remainder of 2014, it will be even with 360, then get outsold by 360 sometime in 2015.

            360 went on to sell 8m, 11m, 10m, 13.5m, 14m, 10.6m, and 6.2m in subsequent years up to 2013. You think XB1 can keep up? I don’t.

            PS3+360 > PS4+XB1. Console market is overall shrinking not growing. Shrinking market + PS4 taking a lot of former 360 marketshare = XB1 sells less than 360, almost guaranteed.

            I expect some strong meltdowns as the tier 2 “failure to launch” continues this month, while PS4 Destiny bundles sell by the truckloads.

            PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

            PS4 is selling in line with the other two active consoles Wii U and PS3, at around 6-9k a week. PS4 sold 332k in its first two days on sale in Japan, similar to Wii U.

            Intent to buy PS4 probably increased by a good amount after TGS 2014. They announced a lot of popular Japanese franchises like Gundam, Dragon Quest, Persona, etc.

            PS4 sales will increase as devs move from PS3 to PS4. PS3 is still an active console in Japan, it’s taking longer to fade out. Sony still has a strong overall presence in Japan between PS3, PS4, and Vita.

          • sergeantnorider

            Sales mysteriously don’t matter when we discuss the vita and the 3ds however. I wonder why? Lol.

            Dude just shut up. Your embarrassing yourself. Sales will matter when it impacts third party support here in the U.S.

            Could care less otherwise. Glad you take such pride in an accomplishment achieved by someone else.

            But how is your career going loser? Lol.

            Put that nametag back on and get back behind that drive thru register…I want a number #2 with a medium sprite.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Who is talking about the 3ds and vita wow. Also sales matter sales are good I know it is hard for an wanna be to understand that.

            My career is great just finished college got a bachelors degree and a new job. How is living in your parents basement still being a leach on them holding up?

            Yep that is right time to give it up little one don’t want you to get in trouble again.

        • XbotMK1

          Just curious, do you think you’ve won something just because sales fluctuated minorly from a prior month based of Pachter? LOL

          • $113353191

            Pachter is usually wrong.

    • Will

      Well, people may or may not realize it. Sony has always been about over-hype. Sony knows how to sell consoles.

      But you’re right. It seems the general populace has been indoctrinated with this idea that the PS4 has a huge performance advantage while the XOne’s (much better, IMO) features have somehow diminished its ability to play games. The real-world difference between the two in terms of performance is practically naught.

      “Counting pixel output probably isn’t the best way to measure the difference between them though. There are plenty of other (and more important factors) that affect image quality besides resolution. We may push 40 per cent more pixels per frame on PS4, but it’s not 40 per cent better as a result… your own eyes can tell you that.”

      ~ Oles Shishkovstov – 4A Games’ CTO

      • $113353191

        PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

        You are ignorant of the reasons PS4 is selling, instead making up insane conspiracy theories about “overhype” and “indoctrinated consumers”. That indicates you are mentally ill and prone to fantastical delusions instead of accepting reality.

        Sony has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so well.

        MS and Mattrick, Hyrb, Penello, Greenberg, Medhi, Spencer, etc. have been making the arrogant anti-consumer PR blunders, spin, lies, and deceptive BS this gen, not Sony.

        It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway. Sorry. Consumers decide what’s important and they disagree with you 2:1.

        PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.

      • Revolver Ocelot

        Nice to see 4A Games make Xbots feel better for the Strugglebox’s deficiencies.

        • Will

          Yeah. Good on you. Keep slandering this endorsed developer. He doesn’t agree with you. He deserves it.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            I’m not slandering him, I’m mocking you. You fucking idiot. Back to the gutter with you. :)

          • Will

            Wow. Have some accountability. Your comeback is some twisted joke that slanders somebody that knows what he’s talking about. You don’t.

            Throwing out insults doesn’t help your case, but I’m sure that won’t stop you.

            He still doesn’t agree with you.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            He does know what he’s talking about. Why would he want to alienate potential customers by admitting you got the gimped version?

            Don’t worry, enjoy that 12p extra on the new SDKs that’ll bail out the Shitbox Done.

          • Will

            I’m not worried. The games look and play the same. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • DrumStickNinja

      Thumbing up your own comments I see. Fauqing douche bag

    • Zanten

      At which point, since you seem to be saying the two consoles are equally good, they’ll sell about equal in the U.S., the PS4’ll continue to outsell it in worldwide markets, so the PS4’s global lead will just continue to widen. o.o I fully expect that, eventually, the Xbox One’ll start catching up in the U.S., possibly even exceed the PS4 in the U.S. in a year or two… but globally speaking, the PS4’s going to maintain its lead, if not widen it, simply because they’re a bigger brand in more markets.

      It let the PS3 catch up and surpass the Xbox 360 despite the U.S. being overwhelming Xbox-centric, and given the Xbox One is increeeeedibly unlikely to ever gain the same U.S. marketshare that the Xbox 360 had, Sony’s advantage will be even more noticeable.

      So yeah. o.o Folks looking at the Xbox One catching up might just want to focus on the U.S. sales. Catching up globally is incredibly unlikely, unless the Xbox One gains a massive marketshare advantage in China, and China turns out to sell tens of millions of them. Which, hey, could happen.

      • $113353191

        No, that’s not happening in China.

        • Zanten

          Eh, meant more a ‘Snowball in hell’s’ chance, agree it’s extremely unlikely. xP

      • ?????

        The preorder #s are actually pretty high.

    • $113353191

      PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

      Sony has been good about honesty with the PS4 for the most part. They have much better PR this gen than PS3, that’s one reason it’s selling so well.

      MS and Mattrick, Hyrb, Penello, Greenberg, Medhi, Spencer, etc. have been making the arrogant anti-consumer PR blunders, spin, lies, and deceptive BS this gen, not Sony.

      PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.

      Tier 2 markets are launching this month to little sales as expected by anyone sane. PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales this gen.

      Right now PS4 ~10 million, Wii U ~7 million, Xbox One ~5 million sold to consumers.

      Xbox One sold 197k in June NPD, down to 131k in July NPD. August NPD doesn’t look good either. The $400 SKU was only a temporary bump so far. The “boost in sales” is over already. There’s no more ‘a faster rate’.

      Tier 2 countries will do very little for Xbox sales. An extra 5-15% a month at most after the launch month. Xbox has almost no presence outside of the 13 countries they already launched in. The global picture is accurate as-is.

      The 13 countries Xbox One already launched in account for 85-90% of 360 sales. The remaining markets are tiny and PS3/PS4 dominated. Most unlaunched European countries already have stacks of grey market Xboxes.

      PS4 is keeping its 1st place in global sales. Xbox is a weak global brand outside of US and UK and it can’t even take those. In European countries like Germany PS4 is outselling Xbox 3:1.

      XB1 is currently ahead of 360 time adjusted, but several months in 2014 it’s been selling less than 360 month-to-month. In other words, unless XB1 sales increase, it will fall under 360 time adjusted.

      They need a serious momentum boost to keep ahead of 360, they’re still in 3rd place behind Wii U, and even Wii U has been outselling XB1 the last few months in global sales.

      XB1 will probably sell less than 360 long term due to a shrinking console market and PS4 taking more marketshare.

      360 2005: 1.178m
      XB1 2013: 3.051m

      360 2006: 6.811m
      XB1 2014 (so far): 1.984m. Pretty much zero chance of XB1’s 2014 outselling 360’s 2006.

      That means even if XB1 sells 2 million in the remainder of 2014, it will be even with 360, then get outsold by 360 sometime in 2015.

      360 went on to sell 8m, 11m, 10m, 13.5m, 14m, 10.6m, and 6.2m in subsequent years up to 2013. You think XB1 can keep up? I don’t.

      PS3+360 > PS4+XB1. Console market is overall shrinking not growing. Shrinking market + PS4 taking a lot of former 360 marketshare = XB1 sells less than 360, almost guaranteed.

      I expect some strong meltdowns as the tier 2 “failure to launch” continues this month, while PS4 Destiny bundles sell by the truckloads.

      PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

      PS4 is selling in line with the other two active consoles Wii U and PS3, at around 6-9k a week. PS4 sold 332k in its first two days on sale in Japan, similar to Wii U.

      Intent to buy PS4 probably increased by a good amount after TGS 2014. They announced a lot of popular Japanese franchises like Gundam, Dragon Quest, Persona, etc.

      PS4 sales will increase as devs move from PS3 to PS4. PS3 is still an active console in Japan, it’s taking longer to fade out. Sony still has a strong overall presence in Japan between PS3, PS4, and Vita.

  • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

    R.I.P PS4

    • XbotMK1

      Words cannot directly describe the stupidity in that comment. LOL

      • ?????

        Sony may go bankrupt.

    • $113353191

      PS4 will still be outselling Xbox by 2:1 globally by the end of 2014.

  • Wizard of Peace

    I just dont see a reason to own Xbox One besides Halo…

    • sergeantnorider

      Well if PS4 had Gears we could talk but Sony couldn’t come up with the cash to bid for it. Sorry to tell but I think Gears crushes every exclusive out there. We still play the first one. So I’m just not missing Gears 4 baby. People can yell and threaten me till they pass out. GIVE UP Gears? Hell naw….lol…

      • Wizard of Peace

        I never really like gears honestly, played the first and third and could barely finish the campaigns, let alone play online.

        • sergeantnorider

          Its a skill game. Some reviewers like Jeff Gersham didn’t like it either cause they sucked. Not saying you do but a lot of Sony fans don’t like multiplayer because they’re not very good at it. So they hide in rpgs.

          • Fenrir Posorski

            I beat the game on all difficulty levels, solo. And guess what? the game is meh. Played it to such a degree because I had nothing else to do while I was snowed in. So please, try to ad hom this.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Microsoft fans don’t like games where you have to think for the most part so they hide in FPS’s

          • sergeantnorider

            Pretending to be a fucking warlock or sorcerer does not require much thought. It just requires that you be a wimpy nerd playing magic in the fucking mall. Get some balls and log on for a real challenge. Not that hit point slow as duck fuck turn style gameplay. You keep that wack shit. I’ll take gears. Cmon one day so that I can remove your face with a sniper. Lol.

          • pbizkit

            I couldn’t get over host advantage on gears when I played… Before you rage about how I suck and whine about it.. I did well on gears but probably because I had a really good isp

          • Shannon Novosel

            Lol trying to be a pretend soldier while sitting in your parents basement mooching on them doesn’t make you soldier. You and your pathetic no skill FPS. You keep your idiot games we can see the wanna be in the picture.

          • sergeantnorider

            Because your so ashamed of your appearance you have to hide it behind a photograph of a fucking Muppet? Lol.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Looks it is one of the reasons parents need to be allowed to use abortion. Finally not grounded I see your parents must have taken away your internet privileges.

          • sergeantnorider

            What the fuck did you just say? Did you just curse at me in Chinese?

            Motherfucker you curse at me, you better use the King’s English!

            Don’t make me break out the pimp hand!

          • Shannon Novosel

            Don’t get too worked up you might get grounded little wanna be. Yeah abortion definitely should have been used in your case either that or your mother should have swallowed.

          • ?????

            And look what PS fanboys have been going apeshit over for a year *cough* Destiny *cough*.

          • Shannon Novosel

            So Xbots having been going apeshit over Halo which hasn’t been released. Do you have a point or are you just trying to spread your stupidity further?

          • ?????

            And people have been going WAY more apeshit over Destiny. People are looking forward to MC collection and 5, but not going apeshit over it like a bunch of neanderthals like PS fanboys. Keep trying, you just graduated “college”.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Personally no interest in Destiny but you xbots act like Halo is something great a game with no intelligence needed. Guess that’s why you like it.

          • ?????

            I’m in honors classes in high school, so I can play a game that requires thought. Too bad you dropped out.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Oh wow honors in high school try it in College like I am while working full-time and doing an internship. I’m sure your sleeping with people to get your grades.

          • Oh Shit!

            For someone in college you clearly need to work on English again. I bet you sleep with your mom on a regular basis.

          • Shannon Novosel

            For someone who sucks there dad’s dick so much I am surprised you have enough time to be on the computer.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Wow im surprised you have time to type being on your back so much and handing out bjs to all your family members.

          • ?????

            Brilliant argument. Express your immaturity.

          • Shannon Novosel

            Idiot with ????? marks for a name shut up.

          • Rubix99

            Lets take a look at the Global top 10 best selling Xbox 360 games shall we.

            1 – Kinect Adventures! (2010) 21.15 million
            2 – Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (2011) 14.28 million
            3 – Grand Theft Auto V (2013) 14.17 million
            4 – Call of Duty: Black Ops (2010) 14.08 million
            5 – Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009) 13.26 million
            6 – Call of Duty: Black Ops II (2012) 12.99 million
            7 – Halo 3 (2007) 11.93 million
            8 – Grand Theft Auto IV (2008) 10.73 million
            9 – Halo: Reach (2010) 9.59 million
            10 – Halo 4 (2012) 9.10 million

            No Gears title in the top 10.

            16 – Gears of War 2 (2008) 6.68 million
            18 – Gears of War 3 (2011) 6.05 million
            19 – Gears of War (2006) 6.05 million

            Interestingly……..

            13 – The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011) 8.06 million

            More Xbox 360 owners like Skyrim over any Gears of War game!

            Global top 10 best selling Playstation 3 games:

            1 – Grand Theft Auto V (2013) 17.80 million
            2 – Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (2011) 12.94 million
            3 – Call of Duty: Black Ops II (2012) 12.85 million
            4 – Call of Duty: Black Ops (2010) 12.22 million
            5 – Gran Turismo 5 (2010) 10.40 million
            6 – Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009) 10.39 million
            7 – Grand Theft Auto IV (2008) 10.17 million
            8 – Call of Duty: Ghosts (2013) 8.25 million
            9 – FIFA Soccer 13 (2012) 8.00 million
            10 – Battlefield 3 (2011) 6.95 million

            Certainly can’t see any rpg games in there!

            Here is the best selling rpg on PS3:

            19 – The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011) 5.65 million

            Skyrim is not only the best selling rpg in the PS3/360 era but it sold best on Xbox 360 by almost 2.5 million!!!! And you say Sony gamers hide behind rpgs as opposed to mulitplayer shooters???? LOL I think you need to re-examine your facts there!

          • Guest

            It’s funny how these idiot fanboys make bold statements and disappear when their lies are exposed thanks to hard facts.

          • sergeantnorider

            You don’t provide links for those numbers do I don’t need to reexamine anything actually. Thanks for wasting 20 mins of your life to write that novel.

            Hope you think I’m foolish enough to waste 20mins of my life reading and fact checking it. Smh.

          • Guest

            You’re calling that a novel? 20 minutes to write that?? And you need 20 min to read and check it???

            You’re slow.

          • sergeantnorider

            I said “read and fact check”. The only thing slow here is your reading comprehension.

          • Guest

            Are you blind? I said “to read and check it”!!

          • Rubix99

            Well I can provide a link. Just check VGCharts game sales.
            But you also imply you aint going to “waste 20 mins of my life reading and fact checking it” which clearly means it would be pointless posting any links to you anyway.

            Either way it completely shoots down your imagined claims. There is absolutely nothing wrong with more Xbox 360 owners prefering Skyrim over GoW….in fact I am one of them.

            Love Skyrim on my 360. Also liked Dragon Age: Origins and The Awakening DLC. Got that all on 360 aswell. Come to think of it….. the 360 version sold almost 1 million copies more than the PS3 version globally, despite being technically inferior.

            Marority of rpg love is with Xbox.

      • $113353191

        Sony could have bought the Gears IP, but chose not to.

        • Will

          Is that why you’re basically a forum commercial? Why all your posts are all (copied and pasted) specs and no depth? You’re a Sony employee and represent them?

          . . . or are you just speaking for them out of a cause?

          • $113353191

            Another malicious, blind shill replying to facts, reality, and reasonable arguments by flinging feces and screaming.

          • Will

            Another copied and pasted hollow and shallow post that doesn’t apply. You must have nothing to argue with.

            “Screaming?” :D

    • Will

      Killer Instinct, Forza, Titanfall for me. . .

      I honestly don’t see a reason to own a PS4 apart from Naughty Dog. Maybe when Uncharted 4 comes out. . .

      • Wizard of Peace

        I did love killer instinct, not a racing fan, and i got the titanfall bundle, but i barely play it. Just not a huge fan of the game.

        • Will

          Fair enough. . . If you don’t like it, you don’t like it. Killer Instinct is brilliant, IMO, as is Forza. But I still see zero reason to own a PS4 right now.

    • Here are 16 of many reasons.

      1. full 1080p HD camera that allows you to Skype with auto-digital zoom with up to 10 people.
      2. IR blaster that turns on your Xbox, TV, and cable box.
      3. Navigation controls via voice
      4. Navigation controls via gesture
      5. Allows you to play advanced fitness games with motion tracking and heartbeat monitoring
      6. Signs you in automatically via facial recognition, even in the dark.
      7. Allows you to play motion-controlled games such as Kinect Sports Rivals, Dance Central Spotlight, Fantasia, Fru, and Fruit Ninja Kinect 2.
      8. Allows you to stream games in real-time via Twitch with an inset video.
      9. Allows you to record game clips without having to remove your fingers from the buttons, unlike PS4, which is crucial for catching clips in competitive online matches like Killer Instinct where moving your finger off a button for a split second means you lose
      10. Allows you to edit game clips with an inset video, great for walkthroughs.
      11. Keeps track, via facial recognition and infrared, which players are holding which controllers.
      12. Allows you to play non-Kinect games with added in Kinect functions that improve gameplay, such as recording original character animations and dialogue in Project Spark, shouting out battle formations in Ryse, luring in zombies in Dead Rising 3, switching weapons in Tomb Raider, etc.
      13. Allows you to chat in party-chat without having to have a head set on, which is especially nice when there are other people in the room that want to participate in the conversation.
      14. A better OS that has instant resume of games, snap feature to multitask, and better exclusive apps
      15. Subscription services that are actually a good deal (EA Access) rather than a ripoff (PSNow)
      16. The ability to play media files directly or streamed from another device.

      • sampson3121

        yawn! did you say ddr3? shitbox1 in 2 yrs will be obsolete……ps4 is for gaming, i have a cable box, and i don’t have to repeat a command over and over again and end up using the controller anyways. they tried and failed, the numbers show this fact that the majority of people could care less about the boring x1 features. share play, now that is a feature i like.

        • Will

          No, I have to agree that XOne has far more and better features than PS4, IMO.

          PS4 will be obsolete when XOne is obsolete. The two are pretty close in capability. (That’s why the games use the same rendering engines, features, and textures, and output the same.)

          • sampson3121

            this argument has been over for a long while already.
            you can dream that they’re almost the same but i know this isn’t true….and I’m really tired of explaining the reasons why, so here is just two of the many reasons…GPU AND CPU look it up yourself and then come back with the numbers…..like i said, this issue has been put to bed..
            but please, keep your dream alive.

          • Will

            Love this.

            You might as well post “I’m the expert here, and I’m tired of explaining to you ignorant morons why the PS4 is so much more powerful than the Xbox.”

            Yes, explain. Tell me why the CTO of 4A is incorrect in saying the PS4 is “just a bit more powerful.”

            “you can dream that they’re almost the same but i know this isn’t true….and I’m really tired of explaining the reasons why, so here is just two of the many reasons…GPU AND CPU look it up yourself and then come back with the numbers…..”

            I’m fairly familiar with the specs of the two systems. I’m aware of the GPU/CPU differences, as well as the differences in RAM types, bandwidth, etc. How familiar are you, though?

            See, the problem is that you DON’T know what you’re talking about. Folks who know FAR more than you have analyzed the architectures of the two platforms. Developers code on them every day, and release games for them.

            Don’t give me the “I know better” argument, unless you’re prepared to justify your claims.

            The results are nearly identical, so much so, that you WOULD NOT be able to tell them apart in a blind test. I’d love to see you try. . . Just don’t be too disappointed when you admittedly notice that someone’s playing the exact same game on the Xbox One as you are on PS4.

          • sampson3121

            going for Parity!!!!
            these are the words of most if not all of the devs.
            still waiting for the hardware numbers, you know, the ones that tell the true story.
            if you want i can give you the numbers, and why the ps4 is a much more powerful console…..or you can back up your “nearly identical” statement with facts?
            like i said before, tired of explaining to people facts when it’s easy enough for them to just look at the hardware and see for themselves.
            ddr3 720p 30fps compared to gddr5 1080p 60fps? yeah you’re right, no difference at all really. and with all the cheap gimmicks the x1 has to suck up all that power, it’s even less effective when it comes to running a game that a ps4 would breeze through…hence the words “going for parity” devs max out the x1 and then make the ps4 version look the same, you should be proud!
            like i said before, Infamous Second Son shows what the ps4 is capable of doing, and it’s not just in the visuals, it’s in the particle system. x1 has more features, you’re right, but that is the same reason it’s a less powerful gaming rig. i liked the smartphone analogy, because you’re getting a gadget that’s not geared for just one thing but many….and some people like that. i wanted the best hardware for gaming when i was looking to purchase one of these gaming consoles, i researched and right away noticed how much better the ps4 core gaming spec were. people can say that MS is going to upgrade this and take away that all they want, in the end i have the far more superior console sitting under my tv, and there is nothing you or anyone else can say that will change Facts! i understand that people want to feel good about the purchase they made, but please don’t try to tell the ones who bought the ps4 on facts , to believe that 1+1=3. take care, cause I’m done arguing a fact, that you cannot seem to accept, ciao.

          • Will

            “ddr3 720p 30fps compared to gddr5 1080p 60fps?”

            Hilarious. You REALLY understand the hardware differences, don’t you?

            I’ll just say this. Having six more compute units does not equate to a fixed ratio of more total system power. Not even close.

            IF you really care about WHY the games just don’t show much of a difference, you ought to do some deeper research than Sony’s specification advertisements.

            Not surprised you’re done arguing.

          • sampson3121

            holy fucking lowser! please keep going so anyone with half an understanding of hardware can fucking laugh at you….jesus christ, xbones are fucking stupid

          • Will

            “please keep going so anyone with half an understanding of hardware can fucking laugh at you”

            Are you referring to yourself?

            You’ve already given strong evidence you have no clue what you’re talking about. You parrot specs, yet have no understanding, whatsoever, what they mean.

          • sampson3121

            this coming from a guy who quotes every fucking sentence i type, parrot ? lol look in the mirror.ps4 better hardware=10million in sales and counting. x1= we don’t want to release numbers! fucking losers, all of you! now go and jump in you titan and and talk to your shitbox1, cause that’s what losers do!.

          • Will

            Looks like this is getting under your skin.

            I guess you missed the point of the “quotes”. Alright, I’ll explain. I quote your points so you know what I’m referring to when I expose their inaccuracies. They’re called rebuttals.

            Besides, it’s not the “parroting” that’s the problem, per se. It’s the lack of understanding.

            There you go with sales again. I guess you also agree that Avatar and Titanic are the greatest films ever made?

            How difficult is it to grasp that sales just don’t determine quality?

            I’ll play Titanfall later, don’t worry.

          • sampson3121

            play whatever the fuck you want, but it just won’t look or play as good compared to the ps4. a film is art and is a matter of opinion, unless your talking about the tech side, then yes these two movies for their times were the best movies, just like the ps4 is today the best console of it’s time.

          • Will

            Oh, so you actually BELIEVE that sales equal quality. . .

            Have a nice day.

          • sampson3121

            i was talking about the special effects u moron.
            i said a movie being good or bad is a matter of opinion, but one thing about these movies that you can actually compare were the special effects.
            people went to see Avatar for the effects and it is or was top selling film, same goes for the ps4, most people bought it because they know it’s a more powerful console then the xbox one….the only people who argue this point are the people who bought the shitbox.

          • Will

            . . . that MUST be it.

            Or, people bought the PS4 cuz it was cheaper and Sony played off of Microsoft’s bad press.

          • ?????

            Your comment shows your stupidity. Face it, Wills right, at least he actually has correct statement unlike your trash. Man, PS fanboys are retarded as shit.

          • sampson3121

            When it comes to the graphics processing units of the two machines, the
            story is rather different. Both consoles use AMD Radeon GPUs, with the
            Xbox One’s clocked at 853 MHz and the PlayStation 4’s at 800. But more
            significantly, the PlayStation 4’s GPU has 18 compute units to the Xbox
            One’s 12, granting Sony’s console 1,152 stream processors to Microsoft’s
            768. As the GPU does much of the heavy lifting where graphically
            intensive games are concerned, this has led some commentators to declare
            the PS4 1.5 times as powerful as the One. IGN reckons that, if you factor in clock speed too, it’s more like a 40-percent advantage. now i could do this all day but instead why don’t u suck my … u stupid fuck

          • Will

            “• [PS4’s] 18 CU’s vs. [Xbox One’s] 12 CU’s =/= 50% more performance. Multi-core processors have inherent inefficiency with more CU’s, so it’s simply incorrect to say 50% more GPU.

            • Adding to that, each of our CU’s is running 6% faster. It’s not simply a 6% clock speed increase overall.

            • We have more memory bandwidth. 176gb/sec is peak on paper for GDDR5. Our peak on paper is 272gb/sec. (68gb/sec DDR3 + 204gb/sec on ESRAM). ESRAM can do read/write cycles simultaneously so I see this number mis-quoted.

            • We have at least 10% more CPU. Not only a faster processor, but a better audio chip also offloading CPU cycles.

            • We understand GPGPU and its importance very well. Microsoft invented Direct Compute, and have been using GPGPU in a shipping product since 2010 – it’s called Kinect.

            • Speaking of GPGPU – we have 3X the coherent bandwidth for GPGPU at 30gb/sec which significantly improves our ability for the CPU to efficiently read data generated by the GPU.”

            “Counting pixel output probably isn’t the best way to measure the difference between them though. There are plenty of other (and more important factors) that affect image quality besides resolution. We may push 40 per cent more pixels per frame on PS4, but it’s not 40 per cent better as a result… your own eyes can tell you that.”

            Technical specifications NEVER have direct ratio benefits to the whole system. Those 6 extra CU’s give diminishing returns to the APU system. The performance of a console is never as simple as one or two specs within it.

          • sampson3121

            yawn! you don’t get it do you? if MS made a proper console we wouldn’t be throwing numbers back and forth. enjoy your shitbox and move along. lmfao.
            next?

          • Will

            Next? That’s your comeback?

            Not one argument? Nothing to fight back with?

            Do you not get that YOU don’t get it? You have no clue WHY the PS4 is “significantly” more powerful; you don’t even have a valid game example. Devs will state that the advantage is not much, games will look the same, they’ll look competitive, but you know better?

            Sorry if this threatens you so much. Xbox One’s games will look competitive to PS4’s.

          • sampson3121

            and you didn’t read my previous comment right?
            ok lets make this simple, PS4 IS A MORE POWERFUL CONSOLE! now move along. nothing you say will change that fact, and when devs talk about going for parity, they’re having to not use the ps4’s full capabilities in order to do this, not the other way around.it’s like a Ferrari and a Honda Civic, they make a track that both cars have to drive at the same speed……so please don’t fool yourself into thinking the Honda can match the Ferrari in speed.
            and devs will state many things when they’re about to release a game, what do you think they would say…the ps4 is way better , so when made it look amazing, but please xbots come and by an inferior version for the same price? PR!

          • Will

            It was pretty clear you were “off” in your estimation of the two, but a Ferrari vs a Civic?

            Ouch. Your ignorance is alarming AND ghastly. You’re clueless. And to think YOU are insulting others’ intelligence. :D Your posts reveal everything.

            Maybe that’s how you enjoy your PS4 while you’re playing the exact same version of Destiny. “Those dirty devs turned down the draw distance so they’d reach PARITY. Scum.” Oh wait, you may not understand what that means.

          • ?????

            Wow, Will got you pretty good, you are a blind sheep going around stating things without proving them. No wonder why you must work at McDonald’s!

          • sampson3121

            doesn’t matter what the xbot says, ps4 is a more powerful console, i say it, devs said it, every gaming site has said it…and even MS has said it, that’s why they keep saying that it doesn’t matter it’s all about the games.
            i lost nothing, i have a ps4…and xbots have a cable box that happens to play games. want proof? x1 =12 compute units 768 shader, PS4 = 18 compute units 1152 shaders.
            PS4 =5500MHz GDDR5
            RAM , X1= 2133MHz DDR3 RAM , so if i showed you these numbers and didn’t have the brand name in front of them, which hardware would you want based on power? and if you say the xbox one then you are just a fool…..so please don’t embarrass yourself.
            so when devs say they’re going for parity between the two consoles they are saying(based on these facts) they’re not using the ps4’s full potential because they have to cater to the xbox community, by doing this we ps4 gamers are being denied games that should look way better on our console compared to that other one. you and every other bot can talk shit all you want but these facts, like the hardware it self will never change…thank god for exclusives!
            oh and some of the CU for the x1 is set aside for the kenect so it’s even worse then the actual numbers i stated. enjoy your crapbox1

          • ?????

            Sorry, but you still have yet to back up all those people including Microsoft saying PS4 is more powerful. I’m a fool for picking a console for more features? Why am I talking to a delusional fanboy who never proves anything, uses horrible grammar and just insults people when they prove an unarguable point?
            Run along now, kid. Your mom is calling you for your bath.

          • sampson3121

            Creators of Metro 2033 say PS4 is more powerful.

            http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/28/6078795/creators-metro-2033-ps4-more-powerful-tease-open-world-game

            Oddworld creator Lorne Lanning
            According to Gilray,
            “the PS4 has MORE COMPUTE units, and faster memory and a whole bunch of
            things, that would make that [Xbox One / PS4 parity] physically
            impossible to happen.” At this point, four months after launch, an
            increasing amount of data suggests that Gilray is right — and that may
            be why the PS4 continues to outsell the Xbox One at a rapid clip.

            and here is ms talking about a perception challenge, lmfao :)

            http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-vs-ps4-resolution-microsoft-challenges-yo/1100-6421047/

          • ?????

            Might want to check the first one.
            “He was quick to say that raw power isn’t everything.”
            Even developers say it won’t matter, keep in mind that developers have yet to use the One’s full potential.
            Do you really only think graphics matter? I just laugh at trolls like you.

          • sampson3121

            of course graphics matter, play an 16 bit game and tell me I’m wrong.
            hardware is hardware, doesn’t matter what MS does……just be happy with the console you bought and keep fooling yourself into thinking graphics don’t matter.
            ps4 will always be a more powerful console then the x1…this is a fact the dev made from that same article. no graphics aren’t everything, but i would rather have a game with better graphics then the same game with less graphics, that’s why i have the ps4 instead of the x1, and believe me i looked at both consoles without any bias before i made the choice to go with the more powerful one.
            x1 will always be behind the ps4 in sales, power and this will never change.
            but keep up the good fight xbot!

          • ?????

            1. Tell that to the people who are still loyal to the classic games. Millions of people still play games from the 80s and 90s. You think they give a shit about graphics?
            2. You tell me to be happy with my console, yet you go around blindly hating the One? You’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you?
            3. Graphics don’t matter, would you rather play a great looking game with shitty gameplay, or play a game with shitty graphics but great gameplay? Refer to #1, please.
            4. More powerful, yes, but did they ever use all that extra raw power? No. Developers will make multiplats regardless of which system is selling better.
            5. So you went with PS4 just because it has more pixels? That seems to be the only reason why people bought it. One graphics are nearly the same, and will support more games in 1080p this fall, anyway.
            6. Sales don’t matter. Let me ask you a question: Do you live in Asia? How about Europe? South America? The only place where it counts is America since it is where you and I live. It is certainly possible for Xbox to outsell Ps4 in America, though they may have more trouble doing better in other countries. But ho cares? Its another country.
            I keep proving you wrong. Ignorance is truly strong with you.

          • sampson3121

            so you think the only difference between Gddr5 and DDR3 are pixels?
            having better graphics and the same game play, ever think about that professor?
            sales do matter because MS will have a harder time buying out games from devs.
            the only reason you don’t see a big difference with multiplats is because devs want parity, and the only way they can do that is to not use all of the ps4’s power.
            i don’t go around hating, i just like to read articles online in regards to the gaming world, but then i read comments by xbots and can’t believe the lies and lack of understanding when it comes to these two consoles…..like saying pixels are the only difference between these consoles…another lie!

          • ?????

            “i don’t go around hating, i just like to read articles online in regards to the gaming world, but then i read comments by xbots and can’t believe the lies and lack of understanding when it comes to these two consoles”.
            I’ve seen WAY worse from the PS side. Also, you’re ignorance is showing again.

          • $113353191

            It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway. Sorry. Consumers decide what’s important and they disagree with you 2:1.

          • Will

            You assume that because you are religiously devoted to the welfare of Sony Corporation, that I also care about sales.

            Sales are important, to a point. I think Xbox One is selling “enough”. I’m not worried about it.

            I tend to make my purchases based on what I deem to be a superior value, as opposed to what’s selling the most.

            I do this with games, music, and movies as well.

            Sorry.

          • GK15

            I thought the CPU was pretty much the same with XB1 having about a 10% advantage b/c it’s upclocked. Also offloading all it’s audio to it’s bigger audio chip. Also, XB1 has a bigger cabinet w/ no power brick inside so it runs cooler.

            PS4’s advantage is in it’s bigger GPU and faster/easier to use RAM. But devs are getting more familiar w/ XB1’s ESRAM and MS have improved the XDK’s a lot since launch.

            There was also an article that came out from a Sony technical presentation on PS4 that says PS4 only gets 120-140 GB/s GPU bandwidth from it’s theoretical peak of 176 GB/s. I’m not quite sure of the XB1’s bandwidth numbers, but I’ve heard anywhere from 133 GB/s – 200 actual with DDR3 + ESRAM.

            Basically all this amounts to what many devs have said, that the PS4 is just a bit more powerful. Games look and play great on XB1 and in a blind test, I bet most of these guys wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference

          • $113353191

            There will be no parity if PS4’s stronger hardware is being pushed. In essentially every way, the PS4’s hardware is more powerful than the XBO’s.

            If they’re the same resolution, PS4 will have a framerate or visual effects advantage, or its stronger hardware isn’t being pushed.

            Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +540 GFlops (40% greater) or more (1.3TF to 1.84TF), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support (volatile bit and onion+ gpu cache bypass bus), better performing CPU, faster unified memory, and less OS overhead.

            No amount of API updates is going to make up for that hardware gap.

            Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS console games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion, Diablo 3 (higher framerate), Project Cars, Metro Redux, TLOU Remastered, more.

          • Will

            Parading around the fact that Resogun is 1080p 60FPS is not a good strategy if you want to give the impression that you know what you’re talking about.

        • “PS4 is for gaming”, yet Xbox One has better games. The “PS4 is for gaming” argument is what jealous people say who, as the months go buy and Microsoft continues to deliver a slew of features that further widen the already large feature gap between the Xbox One and the “just for games” PS4, are starting to realize that one-trick ponies aren’t as appealing. I suppose you carry around a watch, calculator, flip phone, music player, GPS unit, and LTE-connected tablet instead of a smartphone because “phones are just for calling”, right? Such a moronic argument. Yeah, let’s pay more for fewer features. That is always something to brag about.

          • sampson3121

            unlike you i don’t buy a smartphone for gaming, not enough power, just like the crapbox, and please tell me about these great games that are making everyone go out to buy the crapbox#1…oops! seems people don’t think the crapperbox1 has the great games like you do. share play, fucking brilliant! next?

          • Youngy

            When’s your next maintenance day for PSN?

          • sampson3121

            maintenance day? what do you mean?
            oh! lol…don’t know, why? what does that have to do with anything?
            oh! right, now i understand, were grabbing at straws now…good for you little man:)
            keep the shitbox dream alive hahaha.

          • What are you like 12? My god. Sure thing, bud. Enjoy yhe feature that Sony announced 1.5 years ago but still isn’t here yet and only lets you play for an hour at a time without saved progress and the like. Sounds amazing.

          • sampson3121

            sure you can save, but if you’re the one that’s leeching from a friend, you can’t save to you own account that’s all. but your friend can save the coop game to his, you need to do more research friend. 60 minutes of free gaming with a friend when you don’t even own the game, is the best feature on either console…and it’s going to be AMAZING!!! :) honestly though, this is a great feature and i hope it works properly…if it does, I’m sure MS will adopt it, and that’s a win for everyone.

          • I really don’t think it’s a great feature at all. I can’t imagine ever using it, especially with the bullshit time limit. Defeats the purpose.

          • sampson3121

            1 hr of gameplay and you can restart were you left of to keep going through a game that you don’t own is a bad thing? thanks loser! enjoy your shitbox1

          • GK15

            I have to say, shareplay seems like the most useless PoS feature I’ve ever heard of, lol! I’ll take instant switching between all my media any day of the week. Am I the only one that doesn’t miss switching inputs?

          • ?????

            Halo. gears, SO, KI, Scalebound, crackdown, dead rising, ryse, forza, phantom dust, titanfall, ori and the blind forest, project spark, pvz, the list goes on. Now you disgusting little shit, go back to playing your crappy indies.

          • sampson3121

            halo=shit, gears= crappy game….dead rising lol ummm, ok? lol…wow! butthurt.
            please be honest…how does it feel to own a shitbox1? i mean when you play a game do u think or even care that it will look better on a ps4 or?
            Forza lol…one of the worst racing games in the history of racing games….you butthurting eh!

          • ?????

            You clearly never played any of these games, just blindly hating on them since your jealous they’re not on your system. I’m butthurt for choosing an exclusive? Who’s butthurt now? No, I won’t care if it looks better since I actually play games to have fun, not because of how many pixels it has. You say Forza is the worst, yet it was the highest rated racing game for the past 10 years. You obviously never played that, either.
            Someone is clearly getting desperate and delusional when facts are presented.

          • sampson3121

            so you think the difference between the ps4 and crapbox1 are pixels? lol
            ok? guess it’s better to be ignorant.

          • ?????

            You call me ignorant, yet you haven’t supported 1 thing and call it the “crapbox” for no reason. Just more blind hate.

          • $113353191

            PS4 is selling on price/performance, better PR and global appeal, long term 1st party support, large number of 1st party studios, more total games and dev support including Japanese and indie devs, wider variety of games, improved PSN since the PS3 days, and PS+ value. It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games.

            The sales don’t lie.

          • Will

            “The sales don’t lie.”

            :D

            Avatar and Titanic must be the greatest films ever made.

            Britney Spears is undoubtedly one of the greatest musicians that ever lived, along with NSYNC.

          • GK15

            Justin Bieber as well :)

          • Guest

            Who talked anything about greatest? That sounds like an argument MS or their fans would make. It is simply more popular.

          • Will

            “Who talked anything about greatest?”

            The guy I responded to.

          • Guest

            There is a bit of difference between ” It’s seen as the best console” and ” It’s the best console”

            I saw his statement more related to populariy than actual “greater console”. But I understand how it can lead to misinterpretation.

          • Will

            Oh, so you interpreted it “correctly.”

            “It’s seen as the best console for multiplatform games. The sales don’t lie.”

            Thanks for your “interpretation”.

          • Guest

            So for you “It’s seen as the best console” is the same thing as “It’s the best console”?

          • Will

            So, his statement of “the sales don’t lie” is his affirmation that what is “seen” as the best console, actually is the best console.

          • Guest

            Sales don’t lie is related to popularity hence the “seen as”.
            The term “best console” or “better console” as it is doesn’t exist.

            We can howerver say “for me, it is the best”, or “the sales figures show that more people think it is the better”.

          • Will

            “The term ‘best console’ or ‘better console’ as it is doesn’t exist.”

            That doesn’t stop people from using it.

            You interpreted it one way, I interpreted it another.

            The point of my response, however, is to show that using sales to discuss superiority is not valid. Using popularity to discuss superiority is not valid.

          • Guest

            I do agree that sales doesn’t equal superiority but more popularity. My point is reading his comment didn’t reflect superiority but popularity. Maybe he actually meant superiority but the “seen as” clearly implied popularity.

            Anyway it doesn’t make sense to continue this discussion as we don’t know for sure what he actually meant.

          • Will

            “Anyway it doesn’t make sense to continue this discussion as we don’t know for sure what he actually meant.”

            Bingo.

            But my point was that sales nor popularity have any validity when determining superiority, regardless of what or which he “meant”.

          • lol

            “yet Xbox One has better games”
            Totally subjective. That argument holds very little value.

            I prefer having more games, more AAA exclusives AND more gaming features than features that I’ll never use. I think the PS4 is selling so well because people actually want a console that focuses on gaming and gaming features like Remote play, streaming content on different Tvs, PS Now, VR headset…

          • Xbox One has more AAA exclusives. Count them.

          • Guest

            Ok. Killzone Shadowfall, Knack, Infamous Second son, The last of us rematered vs Forza 5.

            Like the saying goes. 4 is greater than ONE. ;)

          • Will

            Well, I, for one, completely agree that XOne has better games so far. I much prefer quality over quantity.

            PS4 is selling well because it was cheaper from the start, and it rode on the bad press of the XOne. It certainly wasn’t due to its own merits.

          • GK15

            And it’s a stacked gaming lineup for the rest of the year

          • Guest

            Well, that’s your opinion. The PS4 is still outselling the X1 3:1 in the last 2 months.

            MS’s communication was obviously bad but it is possibly just one of the many reasons.
            We’ll need to ask actual people who bought the PS4 the reason. I for one bought it because for me it has more and better games. I prefer quality AND quantity. ofc all those gaming features, PS+ and the console being more powerful…

            I think they also certainly deserve credit for their success

          • ?????

            I’ve seen more PS fanboys saying that. watch vr end up like the virtual boy and the prices for ps now? Enjoy forking over 4 bucks for an hour.
            Blind and ignorant fuck.

          • lol

            haha Yes Tony. Comments like make you look so stupid.
            Keep posting and showing us your intelligence. :)

          • ?????

            Look who’s talking. And who is Tony?

          • pbizkit

            “”PS4 is for gaming”, yet Xbox One has better games.”
            This is purely opinion based.

            ” The “PS4 is for gaming” argument is what jealous people say who, as the months go buy and Microsoft continues to deliver a slew of features that further widen the already large feature gap between the Xbox One and the “just for games” PS4, are starting to realize that one-trick ponies aren’t as appealing.”
            Maybe you are right since before release no one knew what each console could do and bought soley off their blind faith in that company… oh wait

            ” I suppose you carry around a watch, calculator, flip phone, music player, GPS unit, and LTE-connected tablet instead of a smartphone because “phones are just for calling”, right? Such a moronic argument. Yeah, let’s pay more for fewer features. That is always something to brag about.”

            Buying all three things would be silly in this case… and no one would do that willingly. However bragging about how you can watch tv through your xbox is like saying you can use your tablet on your computer. Its not necessary. Who paid more for their PS4 than an xbox one? No one.. because Xbox shoved the kinect down peoples throats for months before they were behind in sales soo bad they had to do something major.

          • Have fun switching HDMI inputs constantly, and with a remote control too! So anachronistic! Xbox One’s features are too great. I can never go back.

          • pbizkit

            So you bought a gaming system so you didn’t have to switch inputs to watch TV and you could wave your hands around in the air to swipe back and forth or talk to your console… I guess I bought mine so I could play games.. And it doesn’t matter if they are mind blowing graphics or a ton of indies so I can play with my buddies or children.. Either way I’m covered.. While you can watch TV on your xbox

          • Mine can play games too, and watch TV, and Skype, and a ton of other things, all in one interface, and all with voice and gesture commands. Yours only plays games. One-trick ponies don’t appeal to me, because I’m awesome.

          • pbizkit

            Fair enough. Ill accept I’ll never be as awesome as you.

          • You can get pretty close, though: you can buy an Xbox One with Kinect and Forza 5 and any other game you want, this week, for $499. That’s pretty awesome. Good luck.

          • pbizkit

            Already have an xbox one.. Kinectless.. And I’ll wait for a game worth buying.

          • Dance Central Spotlight is really good. So is Xbox Fitness, for an exercise app. Kinect Sports Rivals is also good but is just overpriced. If you can get it for $30 or less, it’s a good deal. I have high hooes for Fantasia too, as well as Fru. We’ll see!

          • Guest

            ha ha! So is MS paying you for the great work you’re doing trying to sell xbox one and its products?

          • I’m just a gamer who appreciates variety, and motion-controlled games are one genre that offers that. It also enables disabled gamers to play games, which I champion.

          • ?????

            Careful with this one. He goes highly unstable when facts are presented.

        • spacemonkiee

          It has DDR3 everyone knows that higher numbers are better stupid, even though DDR5 comes with higher lataceny which evens out the proformance numbers a bit, one of the many reasons Nvidia was slow to adopt it. I mean its not like Nvidias been kicking the pants out of AMD for the last decade. O wait…

          then theres the ESRAM but we dont need to talk about that right now.

      • pbizkit

        Don’t need to talk to people on my console.. Ill go over to their house or phone them..

        Smart remotes have done this for a while..

        Gimmick

        Gimmick

        Won’t own a kinect… They are more cumbersome than anything else

        It’s not a hassle to pick one of my two accounts

        Kinect again…

        Ps4 does this

        Now the recording thing is cool that you can say record that.. However 15 minutes of your gameplay is stored and can be recalled with a button. So taking your fingers off the buttons once in a 15 minute span isn’t too crazy..

        Kinect…

        Voice controls via kinect..

        You can chat with the PS camera as well

        Double hit the PS button to instantly switch between games and whatever else.. Friends list or Internet browser..

        Calling PS plus a ripoff shows your stretching your imagination here.. People might call it a lot of things but a rip off isn’t it…

        Pretty new feature for you to pick here.. Ill go with playing ps1 2 and 3 games via rentals..

        • Learn how to read, bud. I called PSnow a ripoff. It is. The rest of your points are also moot for misinterpretation and I don’t have the time to hold your hand through each one. Thanks for playing, though.

          • pbizkit

            I’m not your bud… Chances are I wouldn’t be able to stand you in real life… Especially when you list Zumba kinect as one of your top 16 features…
            My bad on the psnow/ PS plus thing.. I was tired… The rest you have nothing for and I understand… Nice cop-out that you are gonna have to hold my hand through explaining all of them.

            And before you say I never said Zumba kinect… I was referring to number 5.. The whole advanced fitness games. That is more of a gimmick to me than anything any other console has put out. The only reason xbox stays close with the number of exclusives it has is because of these kinect games which is why I didnt buy my xbox one until recently when they dropped the kinect mandatory crap.

      • $113353191

        16 things most console gamers don’t care about, going by 10 million to 5 sales.

      • lol

        haha so many non-gaming features, casual kinect stuff and subjective arguments. The “not removing finger” thing was funny.

        • Convenience rules the world.

          • lol

            Oh no, If you are into cablebox, Skype with AUTO-DIGITAL ZOOM and kinect games than you should pay 500 bucks and buy an X1.
            But as far as I’m concerned NONE of those 16 points made me want to buy an X1 and I guess many people think like me if we consider sales numbers.

  • Zach Dolbeare

    Sony Sheeple be like, “baaaahhhhh”

    • XbotMK1

      Xbots be like… “OMG, yes, something to hype up and cling to” LOL

    • Shannon Novosel

      Xbots be like 180’s oh yes we like them

    • $113353191

      Big surprise, another article swarming with rabid shills screaming lies and hatred about Sony and PS4.

  • 111AlaN111

    Was Pachter the one who said that the X1 would be winning the PS4 in sales? lol.

  • Revolver Ocelot

    Hahahah, Pachter is a joke. He’s been wrong more than right so far this gen.

    • Guest

      yeah I can’t believe his prediction. Looks like he doesn’t follow trends. The Xbox is likely to be outsold by the Wii U again forget the PS4 that is miles away.

      • ?????

        I can’t believe your intelligence.

    • $113353191

      Pachter consistently inflates Xbox and underrates PS4 with his “guesses”.

  • ランズキ

    Xbox One first party exclusives are all bunch of garbage shooters and sports games catered to the mindless dudebro gamers who doesn’t know any better while the 3rd party exclusives that they tried to bribe from 3rd party developers are selling very poorly that’s why the publishers who made a deal with M$ are regretting it that’s why companies like EA and Capcom are releasing their shit on PC. Sony on the other hand are getting truly quality exclusive games for elite gamers such as God Eater 2: Rage Burst, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, Omega Quintet, Akiba’s Trip 2, Ys 8, Yakuza 0, Touhou Project, Soul Saga, Disgaea 5, Guilty Gear Xrd: SIGN, Mobile Suit Gundam, Everybody’s Golf, Senran Kagura, Earth Defense Force, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd and many more. As you can see all these games doesn’t revolve around shooting people, playing sports, or pseudo hollywood movie games that are catered to the stupid casuals.

    • ?????

      Another butthurt fanboy LOL.

      • pbizkit

        LOL LOL theres nothing wrong with his argument LOL LOL so ill just put hes a fanboy…. LOL

        And then Ill copy and paste it to anyone who seems to know about gaming but disagrees with me… LLOL

        • ?????

          Because he ignored many games, then put a bunch of shitty indies for ps4, as that’s what it only has. Blind ignorant fuck.

          Get mental help, it’s not healthy to hate on pieces of plastic.
          You are lying, evil, mentally ill, feece flinging, demented human fanboy waste.

  • Tga215

    I like my xbox Idc about other people opinions on it

  • Country Boy Lucifer

    Let me fix the title of the article.

    Ps4 beats Xbox one again

    There you go

    • $113353191

      And Pachter probably exaggerating and wrong as usual.

    • ?????

      Just to attract ignorant PS fanboys like you? Obviously.

  • So the xbo one can sell really well in one country, one that has a massive basketball and american football sports base, ps4 sells well in just about every country its available in. To those who say there is no difference in the consoles, you don’t make games for them, neither do i but the people that do say there is so, and i mean this in the most polite way, shut your mouth’s.

    • $113353191

      Or it means Pachter is wrong as usual, inflating Xbox and undercutting PS4 numbers.

  • Rubix99

    Means either 1 of 2 things.

    1 – Interest in PS4 is on the decline

    or….

    2 – Loads of people are holding off to buy the limited white colored Destiny bundle, which got released today.

    Guess we will find out very soon.

    Destiny has been hyped for well over a year and its known to have exclusive content on PS4 and PS3. Yet the PS4 version has been given considerably more attention and hype than any other version. We will know for sure in just over a months time when Septembers NPD figures are revealed.

    • Country Boy Lucifer

      Even though it’s a 3rd party the Destiny bundle will be a ps4 system seller for sure. I personally know of a few people who I wouldn’t consider to be hardcore gamers that have been tempted by the destiny bundle

    • $113353191

      Or it means Pachter is wrong as usual, inflating Xbox and undercutting PS4 numbers.

      • Rubix99

        I don’t understand how Xbox One is meant to have “made up ground on PS4” if the PS4 has once again outsold Xbox One in August.

        Xbox One would need to actually sell more units than the PS4 for the month in order for it to be gaining ground…..otherwise the sale gap is just widening further if the PS4 is victorious.

  • GK15

    Nice to see XB1 doing well. It had a rocky start under the Mattrick era, but it’s a great console so nice to see it catching on.

    • $113353191

      Or it means Pachter is wrong as usual, inflating Xbox and undercutting PS4 numbers.

      This is just a guess by Pachter, stop assuming it’s a fact.

    • Guest

      haha so a prediction (and especially a Patcher prediction) is fact now.

      You guys are funny!!

      • ?????

        Another butthurt fanboy. And liked his own comment. So desperate LOL.

        • Guest

          lol are you an idiot? My screen name is “Guest”. “1 Guest Vote” or “2 Guest Votes” doesn’t mean necessarily that’s my vote or I voted 2 times.

          GK15, you know the only desperate people here are those who takes Patcher’s prediction as facts.

          ha ha Just thinking about it again makes me laugh!!!

          • ?????

            Get mental help, it’s not healthy to hate on pieces of plastic.
            You are lying, evil, mentally ill, feece flinging, demented human fanboy waste.

          • Guest

            lol you seem upset, Tony.
            Funny how you, one of the biggest fanboy here calls other that.

            Keep spamming ignorant fanboy. :)

          • ?????

            You have yet to prove me ignorant. Who is Tony, and Sampson is the biggest fanboy here. But nice try.

  • Loranna N Dre Hughes

    When Valve finally drops left 4 dead 3 the Xbox One will blow PS4 off the map

    • $113353191

      No.

    • Guest

      Are you seriously thinking that or just trolling?

  • Loranna N Dre Hughes

    Microsoft should have had left 4 dead 3 out when the Xbox one first dropped that is the funnest multi-player game that was out for the Xbox 360